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#1 DuesyKid

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:22 PM

Hello All!
 
Its FINALLY time to start my build thread for the Duesenberg!.....I've been bugging my Stepdad Clayton (Mr.ModelT here on the forum) about it every night for the last two weeks.  The first thing he said was "Research what your building and know every detail personally...and there is no better way then studying the real thing".  Unfortunately getting the chance to look at a real Duesenberg is next to impossible.  Thanks to a friend of my Stepdad's however, I had the very rare opportunity to have a 2 hour visit with J-475/2486.... their beautifully restored 1931 Derham bodied Convertible Sedan (1 of only 5 built) it was awesome!  You can see it on my avatar and the photos attached.
 
After crawling over the real Duesenberg, we made the first steps Last night when I airbrushed the engine with Mr.Model T, but that's all we got we got done  :(.
 
Anyways, our game plan is to get the rest of the drive train parts airbrushed and perhaps the frame in body color (dark blue)...as well as getting all the chrome parts ready for re-plating....Clayton is taking care of that for me :D.
 
Stay tuned for more and follow along!  :D  :)  ^_^  B)  :lol:  :rolleyes:  ;)  :blink: 
 
Andrew ~ "DuesyKid"

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:06 AM

Nice pix. The last one is really good.



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:13 AM

Andrew, I have seen your other builds and you seem to have some real talent. So I have a few pointers based on your pics here.

 

Assemble the engine halves before painting. That way you can clean up any seams.

 

Are you in a well ventilated area? You seem to be air brushing with the part right under your nose. Paint and thinner fumes are dangerous. You should be using a air-purifying mask at the very least. Safety first.



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:15 AM

great start, nice pics!

 

i actually had the privilige of working on, and then riding in a duesy dual cowl phaeton back in the 90`s. it was a beautiful car, but the front fender got a tiny ding in it, and i was working for a buddy of mine who had a small bodyshop, and just our luck one of his neighbors rents storage space for classic cras, plus he owns a few.  the duesy was one he didnt own, i think back then it was worth a million bucks, but we fixed the tiny ding in the fender, and the guy took us for a ride.....it was very cool.

 

ive been thinking about building something classic like this, i dont have anything like it in my collection....

 

keep up the good work

cheers

bryan



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:17 AM

heres  shot of what the car looked like, not the actual one....but its the same color. click the link below.....

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=duesenberg+dual+cowl+phaeton&safe=off&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FkeSUZeTKIeH0QGD9YHADA&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=643#imgrc=S8t1IVshzoWqTM%3A%3B82sP2_Yc9un9RM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fayay.co.uk%252Fbackgrounds%252Ftransport%252Fcars%252F1934-Duesenberg-Model-J-Murphy-Dual-Cowl-Phaeton-Green-Black-fsvr.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fayay.co.uk%252Fbackground%252Ftransport%252Fcars%252F1934-Duesenberg-Model-J-Murphy-Dual-Cowl-Phaeton-Green-Black-fsvr%252F%3B1280%3B960

 

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:25 AM

That's looking great! Keep us posted with the progress, it looks like a cool build. These Old Classics are nice to see being built, even if I've never built anything Pre '49 cars as Stock. Also I like to see other young people building. :D

 

Are you in a well ventilated area? You seem to be air brushing with the part right under your nose. Paint and thinner fumes are dangerous. You should be using a air-purifying mask at the very least. Safety first.

 

Whoops...Never thought that, I've been painting in the Garage with really bad ventilation. On Summer I paint outside though (But here the summer isn't that long). Maybe I should try that. ;)



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:41 AM

Andrew, I have seen your other builds and you seem to have some real talent. So I have a few pointers based on your pics here.

 

Assemble the engine halves before painting. That way you can clean up any seams.

 

Are you in a well ventilated area? You seem to be air brushing with the part right under your nose. Paint and thinner fumes are dangerous. You should be using a air-purifying mask at the very least. Safety first.

 

 

That is partially my fault as his teacher :rolleyes:  ...it was late when we started and after a full day.....that went right out the of my mind until he started painting.  We do have some touch up work to do yet, so we will join the block halfs and clean everything up before our touch up work.

Yes, our garage is well ventilated, but you make a good point....Safety first is best. I am in the process of building a small, sealed paint booth for us to use that will be ventilated correctly.

When I was a kid....there was a big window above my Dad's workbench.....so I didn't worry about it much :D

 

 

great start, nice pics!

 

i actually had the privilige of working on, and then riding in a duesy dual cowl phaeton back in the 90`s. it was a beautiful car, but the front fender got a tiny ding in it, and i was working for a buddy of mine who had a small bodyshop, and just our luck one of his neighbors rents storage space for classic cras, plus he owns a few.  the duesy was one he didnt own, i think back then it was worth a million bucks, but we fixed the tiny ding in the fender, and the guy took us for a ride.....it was very cool.

 

ive been thinking about building something classic like this, i dont have anything like it in my collection....

 

keep up the good work

cheers

bryan

 

They are impressive....and it is a rare opportunity to study or work on one these days, so this was a great thing for Andrew and I.  The Duesy we visited was owned by a shipyard worker in the 1940's and 1950's and used as his work vehicle.  He built large racks on top to carry steel stock, carried tools in the back seat and had a large trailer for tools and his welders....

It looks allot better now.



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 12:32 PM

Keep up the good work, Andrew!

It must have been a real trip to get to thoroughly inspect a real Duesy!

And Clayton, good job in teaching this young fellow. Can't wait to see the finished model down the road.

(and to think that there's some folks on this board who don't see the value in passing down this hobby to the next generation....here's a perfect example of the good that can come of it)

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:33 PM

It's nice to see someone your age building. I taught junior and senior high school. I'd run into a kid here and there that might try a car or airplane, and I think there was one or two that was really into it.

 

And the choice....spectacular. That's a very nice kit. It really surprised me how many kids your age find the capital C "classics" so cool and wonderful. It made me happy.

 

This is my up close and personal with a Deusenburg, that taken ill with vapor lock on a country road near me.

 

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Charlie Larkin



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:39 PM

dont breethe pante fuumes! HOW will he end uup beain like uss?
Good start Andrew, keep us posted.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 12:49 AM

Looking real good, you seem to be a natural with the airbrush ....



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 01:52 AM

Good start.

I have one of these kits to do . so I'm going to keep an eye on this build



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:37 AM

Nice work!  :)  I'll keep an eye on this.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:43 AM

You are off to a great start!

 

I have driven and worked on a number of Duesenbergs. They are one of the few Capital "C" Classics that really run and drive as well as they look like they should. I will watch this build with great interest!

 

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:47 AM

It's nice to see someone your age building. I taught junior and senior high school. I'd run into a kid here and there that might try a car or airplane, and I think there was one or two that was really into it.

 

And the choice....spectacular. That's a very nice kit. It really surprised me how many kids your age find the capital C "classics" so cool and wonderful. It made me happy.

 

This is my up close and personal with a Deusenburg, that taken ill with vapor lock on a country road near me.

 

DSCF0235.jpg

 

Charlie Larkin

 

Thanks Charlie!  He is a good kid and will probably be the only 12 year old Duesenberg aficionado out there by the time we're done.  He says he is a BIG Duesy fan :D        I am also pleased that he has taken to this as much as I did at his age and enjoys it so much.

 

That is rare...running across a Duesy like that.  Do you have any more pictures of this car?  I think this might just be 1930 J-366/ Chassis 2381. Originally it left the factory as a LeBaron bodied convertable sedan...but ended up with this roadster body (by an unknown coachbuilder) some time in the mid to late 1930's.

 

This is the car after the roadster conversion:

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and sometime in the late 1950's:

2381_J-366a.jpg

 

2381_J-366c.jpg

 

 

Curious if it is infact the same car :)

 

You are off to a great start!

 

I have driven and worked on a number of Duesenbergs. They are one of the few Capital "C" Classics that really run and drive as well as they look like they should. I will watch this build with great interest!

 

Eric

 

They are impressive, but a few of the people I know that have driven, owned and worked on them all seem to say "They drive like an old Dump truck"

 

Having never worked on or driven one myself (something I would love to do at least once)...I can only assume that for a luxury car of that price...it should have a nice ride and handling.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 07:29 AM

Wow your a very lucky young man! I am 35 yrs old and I've never seen a deuce with my own eyes. But I find the fact you get to enjoy your hobby with your step-dad even greater then seeing the deuce.keep up the good work you guys me and my soon to be stepson have this build bookmarked (he is 9) hope you bring home the trophy if not you have already won and won big IMHO.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:46 AM

We did get some work done on the frame and will be color testing for body color soon... so that we can get the chassis in color :)

 

He will have an update for you guys in the next few days. :D

 

Clayton



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:56 AM

Clayton, the car I ran into was a 1929 Model J (no blower) with an all-aluminum Murphy body. As near as I can tell, that was the original body. Except for the fenders, which are painted silver, all the other shiny areas on the maroon body are polished aluminum.

 

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The edges of the vents on the hood are aluminum. Up close, they look like chrome. Absolutely stunning.

 

Mr. Fafard, the man that owned the car said it drives a bit like a medium-duty truck. Boy, what a truck to drive!

 

If I hit that $600 million jackpot tonight, I think I'm getting one just because.

 

Charlie Larkin



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:58 AM

dont breethe pante fuumes! HOW will he end uup beain like uss?
 

:lol:



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:49 PM

 

They are impressive....and it is a rare opportunity to study or work on one these days, so this was a great thing for Andrew and I.  The Duesy we visited was owned by a shipyard worker in the 1940's and 1950's and used as his work vehicle.  He built large racks on top to carry steel stock, carried tools in the back seat and had a large trailer for tools and his welders....

It looks allot better now.

 

Do you have any photos of the Duesy from those days?  A lot of the big old classic cars saw use as work trucks once they were older and on the back row on used car lots.  After all, they were huge and built on truck like frames.  As someone said above, 'drove like a dump truck'.  These cars became tow trucks too.


Edited by Tom Geiger, 18 May 2013 - 03:50 PM.