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#121 Danno

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:47 AM

Can't wait to buy a few bodies to make the chop top go away.

 

 

Be sure you do!   These guys are putting together a beautiful conversion kit . . . and you WON'T believe how reasonably priced it will be!!   

 

(Read that:  cheap!)



#122 sjordan2

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:24 AM

I have no intention of criticizing anyone, but I have been following the evolution of opinions on this kit, roof height, etc., and I am having a hard time trying to understand why any of this is of particular importance. This 1:1 Mustang almost destroyed the Mustang brand for many reasons including weak, lousy styling, and I just don't get it.

#123 Rob Hall

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:33 AM

I have no intention of criticizing anyone, but I have been following the evolution of opinions on this kit, roof height, etc., and I am having a hard time trying to understand why any of this is of particular importance. This 1:1 Mustang almost destroyed the Mustang brand for many reasons including weak, lousy styling, and I just don't get it.

Then why post in this thread if you have no interest in or understanding of the subject?  Are you just trying to stir up trouble?    The Fox era Mustang saved the Mustang brand after the disasterous Mustang II...these were and are very popular cars amongst Mustang enthusiasts.


Edited by Rob Hall, 16 September 2013 - 11:40 AM.


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:53 AM

Then why post in this thread if you have no interest in or understanding of the subject?  Are you just trying to stir up trouble?    The Fox era Mustang saved the Mustang brand after the disasterous Mustang II...these were and are very popular cars amongst Mustang enthusiasts.


I'm just trying presenting another opinion on this car, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Opinions are what this forum is about. If you think I'm trying to stir up trouble... well, I won't say it. Your combative comment is one to stir up trouble.

Edited by sjordan2, 16 September 2013 - 11:57 AM.


#125 Johnny Racer

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 12:32 PM

I know I'll be down for one or 10 or these.  LOL  Nice work... thanks for taking the time to correct the problem areas!



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 01:44 PM

Mike if you lay the windows down flatter they will form easier . Unless you intend the back and side windows stay in one piece. You will get less webbing forming on the sides while the plastic folds while it is sucked down over your buck. This will give you less height to over come with the forming. 



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 01:52 PM

I have no intention of criticizing anyone, but I have been following the evolution of opinions on this kit, roof height, etc., and I am having a hard time trying to understand why any of this is of particular importance. This 1:1 Mustang almost destroyed the Mustang brand for many reasons including weak, lousy styling, and I just don't get it.

Skip you may not like this cars style, but they sold a ton of these . 



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 03:18 PM

I have no intention of criticizing anyone, but I have been following the evolution of opinions on this kit, roof height, etc., and I am having a hard time trying to understand why any of this is of particular importance. This 1:1 Mustang almost destroyed the Mustang brand for many reasons including weak, lousy styling, and I just don't get it.

 

That's why they make chocolate and vanilla.

 

Mike if you lay the windows down flatter they will form easier . Unless you intend the back and side windows stay in one piece. You will get less webbing forming on the sides while the plastic folds while it is sucked down over your buck. This will give you less height to over come with the forming. 

 

Andy, that's the direction that I'm going in right now. I'm getting tired of wasting butyrate, so I am redoing the buck with less slope, and I'll include a sheet of material to make the 1/4 windows rather than forming them - because the material curves nicely so there is no reason to do that. Also, I was using resin copies of the masters, and I glued them to the sculpy with JB Quick. As it turns out, the heat and suction warped the resin where it wasn't reinforced, so now I'm back to using the kit plastic masters on the new form; this time with lots of reinforcement so they won't buckle. I will then pull a clean mold, fill that with epoxy or resin to make it a solid block, pop it out, and use that for the buck.

 

-Mike



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 03:21 PM

^^ this. All of mine are on the back burner too. The more I look at it the more angry I get. Lol

#130 Greg Wann

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 03:48 PM

Move along, Skip, Nothing to see here, move along.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 04:14 PM

Move along, Skip, Nothing to see here, move along.


You are correct, sir. There is nothing to see. I'm moving along.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 05:01 PM

 

That's why they make chocolate and vanilla.

 

 

Andy, that's the direction that I'm going in right now. I'm getting tired of wasting butyrate, so I am redoing the buck with less slope, and I'll include a sheet of material to make the 1/4 windows rather than forming them - because the material curves nicely so there is no reason to do that. Also, I was using resin copies of the masters, and I glued them to the sculpy with JB Quick. As it turns out, the heat and suction warped the resin where it wasn't reinforced, so now I'm back to using the kit plastic masters on the new form; this time with lots of reinforcement so they won't buckle. I will then pull a clean mold, fill that with epoxy or resin to make it a solid block, pop it out, and use that for the buck.

 

-Mike

Mike, at work we used  two part epoxy to cast our vaccuform molds. Granted these were all for shipping trays for GM truck fuel pumps . Same process but they were 4 foot square molds. The epoxy is what we had to use for it to hold up to the abuse. We never ran the mold, just made them for a customer. 



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:42 AM

Great job!! I finally picked up one of these kits, that I planned to make a hatchback out of, to copy my 1:1 car. After seeing what you have done here, I'll probably just wait until it's ready to go and buy one of the resins. If you think you'll be able to get a hatch version done, I will ABSOLUTELY wait for it!! 



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 11:10 AM

can these shells be purchased

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:55 AM

I've finally got the glass worked out. The sculpy mold was not strong enough to live through more than a few pulls, the resin glass masters were warping under the heat and suction, and the primer surfacer on the glass masters was out-gassing onto the plastic - partially clouding it. The solution was to make a new lower profile sculpy master, reinforce the kit glass masters by JB-Welding the resin copies behind them, pulling a good thick .030 sheet down over them, and having Greg fill that new mold with resin.

 

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The resin was then popped out, the new rock-hard master was blocked and polished, and sheets of .015" PETG plastic sheet were tried. Result: Perfect.

 

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It's hard to photograph clear parts, but they are very nice. So now that I have this figured out, it's time to find a supplier of .015" PET plastic sheet to get it more economically than going through K&S. Then, the body kits will be ready to go.

 

-MJS


Edited by Maindrian Pace, 03 November 2013 - 09:27 AM.


#136 Erik Smith

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:39 AM

Nice work throughout. It's cool to see the process here and on Greg's resin posts. Thanks to both of you for contributing.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:48 PM

Can't wait,nice job!

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 05:55 AM

I love it when people bash a car they have probably never owned because of the heritage. Ford sold millions of Fox bodies over the span of 14 years. Get over it, if you don't like the car don't post.



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Posted 26 September 2013 - 06:10 AM

Then why post in this thread if you have no interest in or understanding of the subject?  Are you just trying to stir up trouble?    The Fox era Mustang saved the Mustang brand after the disasterous Mustang II...these were and are very popular cars amongst Mustang enthusiasts.

The Fox body and it's styling did not save the Mustang. The 5 liter engine did. The Fox mustang was mediocre at best until the 5 liter 4 bbl came out. The performance sold that car despite the boring two door Fairmont styling. Had it had better styling it may have actually out sold the camaro. as it is the camaro outsold the fox mustang most years of it's existance. The Fox mustang didn't save the car, it kept it on life support until Ford could get its act together.



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Posted 26 September 2013 - 06:22 AM

I love it when people bash a car they have probably never owned because of the heritage. Ford sold millions of Fox bodies over the span of 14 years. Get over it, if you don't like the car don't post.

Actually 2.5 Million cars in 14 years isn't that big of a deal. It works out to less than 180,000 units per year. not exactly record breaking.