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#61 oldscool

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:20 AM

I just opened this kit after receiving it from Hobbylinc.com last night. A couple of big let downs are the chrome plating is really bad compared to the last few round2 kits that I have purchased. Looks like it's got sand in it in many areas and is wrinkled in other areas.

Another thing is the shape of the front wheel openings - the trailing edges are cut back so far that part of the chassis shows in the opening. I don't remember this on the original kit.

They give us the new mold Polyglas tires (four in the smaller size) but without the pad printed logos! Why? They are producing thousands of the pad printed ones anyway. This is just cheapness in my opinion. The original MPC tires are what I was expecting.

Everything else is pretty much as I remember from the original and to be honest is why I got out of modelling during the late 70s.

 

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 09:32 PM

Has anyone built one of these and posted it? I'm curious to see how they look together.

 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 04:41 AM

I just opened this kit after receiving it from Hobbylinc.com last night. A couple of big let downs are the chrome plating is really bad compared to the last few round2 kits that I have purchased. Looks like it's got sand in it in many areas and is wrinkled in other areas.

 

The chrome plating on mine was very good, with no issues of note. The rear tail panel, which IIRC was aluminum on the real car, is absolutely beautiful, and likely the best part of the kit. The bumpers and grille look good, too, despite the molded in(!) headlights. 

 

The driveshaft is molded to the floorpan/chassis piece, so that look horrible, and the chassis is of the perfectly-straight-on-both-sides variety, meaning it drops right inside the body shell, but leaves a gap all the way around, save for one or two areas. The interior tub isn't too bad, despite being a little shallow and having molded in door door panels and a floor console.

 

 

 

Another thing is the shape of the front wheel openings - the trailing edges are cut back so far that part of the chassis shows in the opening. I don't remember this on the original kit.

 

 

Everything else is pretty much as I remember from the original and to be honest is why I got out of modelling during the late 70s.

 

Not sure why the trailing edges of the front wheel arches are like that (Mark?), but those areas stick out like a sore thumb and will need to be corrected. I can't say I'd recommend using this body and the associated body parts-- bumpers, grille, header panel, etc.-- for anything more than a donor to use with a more accurate '67-'76 Mopar A-body, though. If you've looked over the AMT '75-6 AMC Gremlin kits, this one should look very familiar, with it's generic looking performance parts (Thrush Outsider sidepipes excluded), and engine assembly that looks kinda like the real thing, but lack the details which most '90s and up kits include, and the chassis has molded on riser pegs to support the metal axles. The "340" bodyside stripes are a bit puzzling, too, as mentioned earlier in this topic, since the 340 was long gone by '75.

 

On the positive side, the body shape looks much more accurate than AMT's '71 Duster 340, especially around the rear quarter windows, as well as the general roof shape.



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 12:55 PM

I don't want anyone to think that I didn't know what I was getting when I bought this kit. I built many an MPC kit during the 70s and at the time thought most of them were superior to AMT kits of the period. It was just a period of time when car kits were going down the toilet. Hey, it WAS the 70s! I have always thought of the 70s as the "anything goes and don't take it seriously" decade.

My beef is that i was expecting round2 to do a little more tweaking on it like they have some of the other old kits.


Edited by oldscool, 13 May 2014 - 03:00 PM.


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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:44 PM

Well, I learned something new about A body Mopars while doing some Googling. It seems that Dusters and Dart / Demons have always had different shaped front wheel openings.

Duster

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Dart

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Looks like the kit has modified Duster openings that were opened just a little too much.

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You can see the exposed chassis area that I had mentioned in an earlier post. It's hard to tell in the crappy pic but the raised lip around the opening doesn't follow all the way to the bottom rear. It's like someone just cut the piece out with a knife. Also the front wheel isn't centered in the opening.



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 04:08 PM

Well, I learned something new about A body Mopars while doing some Googling. It seems that Dusters and Dart / Demons have always had different shaped front wheel openings.

Duster

373710_14219834_1975_Plymouth_Duster_zps

 

Dart

23832230001_large_zps79f36460.jpg

 

Looks like the kit has modified Duster openings that were opened just a little too much.

IMG_0838_zps11cf7352.jpg

 

You can see the exposed chassis area that I had mentioned in an earlier post. It's hard to tell in the crappy pic but the raised lip around the opening doesn't follow all the way to the bottom rear. It's like someone just cut the piece out with a knife. Also the front wheel isn't centered in the opening.

Because the Dart Sport kit is based on what started out as the MPC '71 Duster, the front wheel openings are in fact reshaped from the Duster, with that slashaway rear line that exposes the lower part of the underbody.  It's that way on the Dart promotional model too.  I'm not sure if there was a '75 Duster promotional model; if there was, it would have been run first.  The '75 Duster annual kit would have been next (it was among the first MPC '75 annual releases) then the tool was permanently changed to produce the Dart.  Again, promo models first, then kits.

In between the '71 and '72 Duster kits and promos, the mid-year '71 Dodge Demon kit was produced.  Truth be known, it's not that good a kit.  The hood is too flat (the underside tooling is straight from the Duster, center bulge and all) and the front wheel openings are pure unadulterated Plymouth Duster.  The 1:1 Demon was a quickie cob job, a Duster with a Dart front clip (and a taillight panel designed for the 340 Duster).  The wheel openings on the Dodge front fenders differ from those on the Plymouth-designed quarter panels in both shape and detail.  The Plymouth Scamp is equally unbalanced; it has Plymouth Valiant/Duster front fenders on a Dodge Dart hardtop body. 



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 04:19 PM

  The 1:1 Demon was a quickie cob job, a Duster with a Dart front clip (and a taillight panel designed for the 340 Duster).

You beat me to the punch here ! :)

Indeed , the Demon's tail lamps / panel was supposed to be for the 1971 Duster 340  model specifically . Their shape was supposed to compliment the 1971 340 (and 'Twister') grille ; not sure if the regular , non-340 Duster was designated to receive the same tail lamps ...



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:04 PM

The chrome plating on mine was very good, with no issues of note. The rear tail panel, which IIRC was aluminum on the real car, is absolutely beautiful, and likely the best part of the kit. The bumpers and grille look good, too, despite the molded in(!) headlights.


I picked one of these up at Hobby Lobby last week, and was also struck by how crisp the engraving is on both the plated tail panel and the grille/headlight assembly. Fortunately, the chrome on mine is fine as well. The only place it looks a little wonky is on the Hemi valve covers, but it looks like those might actually have some engraved texture beneath the plating.

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Posted 01 June 2014 - 02:07 AM

I got one of these last weekend and immediately tried it out against an AMT '71 Duster.

There is chassis showing at the back of the front wheelarches and I thought I was going to have to shorten the chassis but having read this thread it seems that maybe length is not the problem.

If you use the Duster chassis with the Dart body you will need to remove the inner front fenders from either the Duster body or the Dart chassis.