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#1 cobraman

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:52 AM

Since I am stalled on the Corvette hot rod thing while awaiting parts I needed to start another project. Looking at my stash I found a couple of dragsters I figured I would not build anytime soon so I had this idea to combine the two. Now, let me be the first to say I realize this is a crazy stupid idea that would not function well if at all in the real world. I have for some reason been building some strange stuff lately for some reason. That being said I present my next "stupid " wip. Done just for fun !

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 10:20 AM

Ray that's the neat thing about modeling we can do anything that our imagination tells us to do, so what if it won't fly who cares , it's about the fun right, you might be surprised how good it looks when it's finished!! Keep on building em!!!    :D 



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:02 AM

I want one! That thing would be sweet if it was functional!

Edited by itsclayyoo, 17 July 2013 - 11:03 AM.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:04 AM

Thanks guys !



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 02:32 PM

A slot racer no doubt? Gutter Drags?

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 06:31 PM

Oh why not!!!!!!! That's gonna be so kewl. I heard somewhere that there will be a real twin engine top fuel car built. They didn't say whether it will be inline or side by side like the Showboat.

 

Just shows everybody is thinking out of the bleach box.



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 02:02 PM

Worked a little more on this "thing". Did another mock up as now the wheels and tires are mounted. This "thing" is long. One photo shows this one compared to a stock build with a Studebaker streamlined body.

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 02:50 PM

Cool idea, and who says it won't work in reality? They tried just as crazy stuff in Formula 1 and CanAm...tyrrell-p34-1976.jpg



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 04:19 PM

Seeing as how the whole point of 1/4 mile racing is seeing how fast you can get from point A to point B, I don't see how adding all the extra weight and complexity would help.

 

But hey... it's just a model!  :lol:



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 04:22 PM

It wouldn't help. It would be a dog. Thats why I called it a stupid build. It is fun to bash the two kits together however and is not intended to be a serious example of a dragster that would run very good let alone be competitive.  : )



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 04:26 PM

I don't know about the front end but the back would hook up like glue, and less likely to flip over on take off. Fun build.

 

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 05:59 PM

Seeing as how the whole point of 1/4 mile racing is seeing how fast you can get from point A to point B, I don't see how adding all the extra weight and complexity would help.

 

But hey... it's just a model!  :lol:

 

Like lazlow already said, hooking up in excess of 8000 hp COULD conceivably be enhanced with the additional rear tires. There's a lot of tire-spinning wasted energy in a top-fuel launch. There have been several points in the history of drag racing where tire traction was the limiting factor in acceleration. We may be at another one.

 

Many experts 'proved' mathematically that 10 second ETs were the theoretical minimum, based on what was 'known' about coefficients of friction at one time. That was fine until someone ran 9.98. :o

 

The tiny front tires COULD conceivably help to lower frontal area, which is a powerful contributor to drag up around 300mph. When you consider that hundredths of a second count... B)


Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 18 July 2013 - 06:01 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 03:09 AM

Nice info Bill, interesting.  I have an idea to get Harry to like it................ I'm going to mount some mirrors on it !  : )



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:00 AM

Cool project! Reminds me of a story Cole Coonce wrote in Super Stock about a Front Engine Dragster with dual rear wheels that John Force and a few other guys where scheming up. There was a crude drawing of it on a napkin and a very funny story! I think it was all make beliveve, but it made for good reading!

 

Can't wait to see it done!



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 08:34 AM

Hey guys ! Got a bit more done on this "thing". Shot the paint but still needs to be decaled and cleared. Engine is just about done. I should be able to wrap this one up in the next few days. Thanks for looking.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 09:40 AM

This is cool. Not practical - unless you add mirrors - but cool. I have a book that has a pic of an old Mickey Tompson FED dragster with a set of rear slicks tucked inside the rear line of another set of slicks. So the set up was simliar to yours. Weight issues aside - unless you use carbon fiber mirrors to compensate for the extra tires - they experienced some pretty bad weight transfer issues. When it wanted the do a wheelie it bounced back and forth on the tamdem slicks. Not a fun ride, I'd guess.

 

Keep going. This is a blast.



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:36 AM

Ray.......I like what you are doing........Tommy Ivo and a bunch of others had Exhibtion show cars......I think this fits in with them .......Oh Ya don`t forget those mirrors :rolleyes: ........Ray you are doing a great job buddy..........always remember,  "It`s Just A Model"  :)



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:11 AM

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:30 AM

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Many things have been tried in the quest for increased traction. Never say never to a new or unusual idea. Some actually work.


Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 19 July 2013 - 11:31 AM.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 12:17 PM

Thank you very much guys. Thanks for that dragster photo Bill. That thing is wild ! Do you know if it had any sucess on the track ? 2 engines and 4 slicks....WILD !  Maybe I should have stretched mine a little longer and put 2 engines in line in it.

Thanks for the kind words John. They mean a lot.