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Which wagon? 62 Impala by R&R or 61 Impala by Jimmy Flintstone...


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#1 matthijsgrit

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 03:42 AM

Inspired by the bike shop owner who had a rather unusual (in Holland anyway) shop car, I got an idea for a new project.
I'm looking to build a Chevy wagon.
Either a 61 or a 62.

I found a 61 by Jimmy Flintstone. Any thoughts on this?
I also found a 62 by R&R. Quite a bit more expensive. Is it worth that?
Also, does the 62 require an AMT donor kit or wil the Revell kit work?

Where 2 buy?

Any help/thoughts/comments are more than welcome!

MG

#2 Mike Kucaba

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 04:39 AM

My thoughts are that the JF  body is based on the Lindberg "61 chevy and that the R&R  '62 is based off the amt kit.

R&R kits are usually complete except for wheels and tires. JF is usually just a body.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 05:59 AM

R&R is now presumably out of business after Ray Parson's death.  I have the R&R '61,'62, '63 and '69 Chevy wagons..they are all based off of the old AMT annuals...they need cleanup (not as clean as a Modelhaus resin kit for example), but with some effort they can be built pretty well..


Edited by Rob Hall, 19 August 2013 - 06:14 AM.


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Posted 19 August 2013 - 07:11 AM

What part number is the Flintstone piece? I may have to stop and pick that one up from him!!!



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:03 AM

go to <rocketfin.com> . Scroll down to Model Car Links . All vendors are listed alphabetically . Steve Kohler is great to deal with . He will make it right is anything is wrong . R&R castings are hit or miss . Jimmy Flintstone is also great to deal with . His products are real nice . Needing some work as R&R sometimes . This is due to Mold Wear and Tear on both . Jimmy makes mostly doner kits , needing to get doners . R&R made both complete and doner . Check with Steve and make sure what you are getting . Thanx..

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:12 AM

go to <rocketfin.com> . Scroll down to Model Car Links . All vendors are listed alphabetically . Steve Kohler is great to deal with . He will make it right is anything is wrong . R&R castings are hit or miss . Jimmy Flintstone is also great to deal with . His products are real nice . Needing some work as R&R sometimes . This is due to Mold Wear and Tear on both . Jimmy makes mostly doner kits , needing to get doners . R&R made both complete and doner . Check with Steve and make sure what you are getting . Thanx..


I like that suggestion. Visited his site like a million times ( or slightly less ... )
Thanks!

MG

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:37 AM

R&R is now presumably out of business after Ray Parson's death. 

 

I don't know if anyone has heard anything about this.  I understood that his wife Ruth and his children were involved in the business. I hadn't heard whether it would continue in business, be sold or just be out of business.  Does anyone know anything?



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 12:08 PM

 

I don't know if anyone has heard anything about this.  I understood that his wife Ruth and his children were involved in the business. I hadn't heard whether it would continue in business, be sold or just be out of business.  Does anyone know anything?

I don't know...I have noticed that the eBay vendor of R&R kits (msmiteymouse) is still selling them, but I wonder if they are selling existing stock, since the # of listed items has been dwindling over the last few months (I just recently got the R&R '65 Belvedere wagon and Savoy 2dr sedan from eBay).



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 05:18 PM

The Jimmy Flintstone 1961 Impala 2-door wagon body is a phantom model because Chevy didn't offer an Impala wagon or a 2-door full size wagon in 1961.  The top of the line full size Chevy wagon in 1961 is the Nomad followed by the Parkwood and Brookwood.  The Impala wagon wasn't offered until 1962.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:45 AM

Interesting...there is no picture of it on the JF site, curious what their 2dr phantom wagon looks like. 



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 03:35 PM

Interesting...there is no picture of it on the JF site, curious what their 2dr phantom wagon looks like. 

 

http://www.ebay.com/...8#ht_159wt_1018

 

$T2eC16F,!)QE9s3HCoVCBR-Tt)Wv8w~~60_57.J



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:02 AM

Oooh, gonna pick one of them up for sure, that is kool!!!!



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:11 PM

i will be getting the 60 when he comes to our show in october



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:06 AM

R&R is now presumably out of business after Ray Parson's death.  I have the R&R '61,'62, '63 and '69 Chevy wagons..they are all based off of the old AMT annuals...they need cleanup (not as clean as a Modelhaus resin kit for example), but with some effort they can be built pretty well..

 

To me any 60s wagon is COOL!!!!!!.....   Love to have a 69 Impala wagon my mom use to own a 67 and a 69....they got to look sweet!!!



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 07:27 AM

i will be getting the 60 when he comes to our show in october

 

Will you get an R&R one or one from Flintstone?

And why did you choose one particular brand?



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 07:29 AM

Can the huge price difference be explained in terms of quality or easyness to work with or ...?

I found a Flintstone piece for USD 15 (new) and R&R's are about 50 or so... 

 

By the way, I contacted Steve... Looking forward to his answers.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 07:30 AM

I like that hood!!!



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Posted 30 August 2013 - 11:46 AM

Price is due to Parts count. The R&R kits are almost complete. (Body, interior, seats, dash, grill/bumpers, etc)

You need tores, etc, but everything else is included.

The Flintstone is a Body Only(Like the pic of the 61 Impala 2dr wagon above).

Maybe a hood. But NO grills/bumpers, etc.

All that comes out of your parts box/donor kit. 



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 09:46 AM

I settled for the R&R kits.
Beautiful pieces!

I bought them from Steve Kohler. He was great to deal with.

MG

Edited by matthijsgrit, 01 September 2013 - 09:47 AM.