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#21 b_lever1

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 04:53 PM

You tell them Kenn.Just because it was never produced to the general public does not mean it was not made!!! :mellow:  :blink: 



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Posted 30 August 2013 - 04:54 PM

Hey kennb, don't know how far along you are with this, but you might save some time if you can lay your hands on one of these kits. Looks like the Impala styling was influential to the guys at Cadillac!

 The kit is 1/24 scale, from Imex or Arii (shared tooling).

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 05:13 PM

The windshield area looks like a 59 Chevy, the wheels are not Dayton wires, more like Borrani's. You might look at the photo etched wire wheels made to fit a 57 Ferrari 250TR, they were not real deep and they were true knock off hubs also. I haven't seen any older Jag wheels in photo etch, at least not lately. One other options would be Herb Deeks Borrani centers that are photo etched. Herb still sells on eBay.

 

Cool looking car you want to build there.



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Posted 30 August 2013 - 05:30 PM

Hey kennb, don't know how far along you are with this, but you might save some time if you can lay your hands on one of these kits. Looks like the Impala styling was influential to the guys at Cadillac!

 The kit is 1/24 scale, from Imex or Arii (shared tooling).

That is a very good possibility and one I did not think of. Since GM apparently worked on all the cars in the same studio there are a lot of similarities within the entire line. The cross pollination between lines was very evident suring the 50's.
I do have parts coming from all over the US and Canada at this point to work on this car. Others may be needed or wanted for this project and up coming project that fall within this series that I am planning. The Cadillac is one I will be looking for also but the one you pointed out could work in this specific car also. It is, at this point, a wait and see. I will be posting want lists in the future for this projrct and others.
Thank you for the input  to you and all those to date that have given me ideas, information and parts.

 

The windshield area looks like a 59 Chevy, the wheels are not Dayton wires, more like Borrani's. You might look at the photo etched wire wheels made to fit a 57 Ferrari 250TR, they were not real deep and they were true knock off hubs also. I haven't seen any older Jag wheels in photo etch, at least not lately. One other options would be Herb Deeks Borrani centers that are photo etched. Herb still sells on eBay.

 

Cool looking car you want to build there.

I have some wires on the way that I think will work but will keep these in mind if they trun out to be the wrong type or look,, they are, of course, the knock off hubs. thank you for the information. it is all appreciated.

 

I will be starting this up in detail starting next week as the parts start rolling in. hopefully I have enough coming for this project. Time will tell. -_-


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 04:50 AM

Nice!



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 05:04 AM

The first thing I need to do is to get a scaled side elevation of this build. I did find a side veiw that is close to being corrected. Since it is a publicity shot they most likely used a Graphlex 8x10 view camera to correct the perspective you would get with a typical 35mm camera of the time period.This picture is show cropped to the parts that I need.

 

 

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Then I had to get it to scale. Since I will be using both 1/24th and 1/25th cars to start with I will choose 1/24.5 scale which means the 116.5 wheelbase comes out to

4.76" . I imported the picture to word and sized the car using the scale to get the correct size. I just made a small box the correct length and then enlarged the wheel

base to fit the box and printed it out. Making several copies so that I have a clean copy at all times. Using this photo for reference I laid out the planning car over the

photo and was amazingly close. I noted that there are some thing that need to be addressed as I work the build. The wheel wells are all wrong and need to be redone.

The heights are dead on as is the curve on the back.  I am going to have problems using the 59 Chevy front window since it is too wide so I will have to narrow it, resulting in

the need to form a new front window. About 2 months ago I picked up an old Mattel vacuformer so I am going to try to vacuform a new front glass for it.I have never tried

this before so it should be interesting. most of the chrome will work right off the tree except for the grills and side lights. Normally I would just Alcad this but for this car I

think I will send this part out to be chromed properly.

 I go through all of this to give a hint as to the amount of planning I go through before I start a build that is not custom. Planning before cutting saves a lot of time in the

long run. I am sure that I will run into things along the way and may have to redo some parts as I go along to fit within the scale constraints.


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Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:27 AM


the need to form a new front window. About 2 months ago I picked up an old Mattel vacuformer so I am going to try to vacuform a new front glass for it.I have never tried

 

 

Ken, in case you are not aware, there is a guy making the sheets for the old Mattel Vacuform. Right size with all the correct holes around the perimeter. They're available in both clear and white.   Callari Modelworks modelwks@rochester.rr.com



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Posted 31 August 2013 - 10:52 AM

 

Ken, in case you are not aware, there is a guy making the sheets for the old Mattel Vacuform. Right size with all the correct holes around the perimeter. They're available in both clear and white.   Callari Modelworks modelwks@rochester.rr.com

thank you...I may contact him for that. :)



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 06:48 AM

found some more information that I will pass along,,,this is from Hemmings Motor News Dec 2011....lot of good pictures including one of the terrible back side...........................................................i would love to fix that but then it would not be authentic......maybe do one how it should have been also.. :P  I do hope it is okay to post giving credit this way

 

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I have seen the color as blue before and some pictures look blue. I trust the information from Hemmings more than any other source so what is here will be used.



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 03:34 PM

As I'm looking at the last two photos, it occurs to me that you might not want to bother with the 59 parts for the A-pillar, and just scratch build them. At a glance they are similar, but that windshield appears to wrap back even further on the top than a 59 Impala. Another point is that you need a vertical A-pillar. The 59 Chevy angles forward before curving back at the top. Look at the side view you printed to see this. Just curious, but how are you determining the width of the car?

Hope my observations are helpful, I really want to see you do this right! This is a great project to take on - GOOOD LUCK!!



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 03:45 PM

You are correct on that,,,,,you will also note there is a larger "bubble" on the top of the glass. I will most likely form my own glass.  I will probably straighten the a pillar in construction. The width is determined by the track as noted in the Hemming News article. There is a lot to work out with the build ,ost will have to be figured out as I go.



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 06:23 PM

regarding the C-pillar (rear window frame), it looks like a bit of trimming will have to be done if you're going to be using the 58 impala roof/rear glass area. The C-pillar on the '56 appears visually to be about half the width of the '58 C-pillar.

 

PS. I agree...the arse end of the '56 was not some of their most impressive work... but not as bad looking as one of their Caddy concept cars. :)


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 04:49 AM

got the fodder to be cut up today to get this project running,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,have scale photos to work from and input from a pew people I have met along the way.......................will have a list of contributors later as I get the remainder of the parts......see my lastest traders list for my wish list.

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 05:15 AM

Great Project Ken!

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 05:46 AM

Very cool! I like what you are doing here.  I will be following along with it



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 01:33 PM

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 03:10 PM

Another idea: take a look at a 1959/60 Mercury windshield - it wraps even higher into the roof than the Chevy did, and it may have enough extra material on the top to add to that. It's a $2.00 Modelhaus part.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 03:14 PM

Check the tops of your rear quarter-panels. the vette appears to have too much upward curvature (arched) over the wheel well. The Impala is much flatter according to the pictures. Looking promising though!



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 03:22 PM

Check the tops of your rear quarter-panels. the vette appears to have too much upward curvature (arched) over the wheel well. The Impala is much flatter according to the pictures. Looking promising though!

i will be getting to those.....there is a lot of work to do on the little details...thank you for commenting and pointing that out



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:57 AM

front wheel wells were moved back 1/4 inch and the the space directly behind the wheel wells were cut out and swapped side to side to get the curve correct. the rear clip was cut out as shown and moved back 3/8 inch to bring the overall body length to 202 inches. the yellow panel is from a 53 vette to have the top line of the fenders correct to top was cut out of the 58 chevy donor and is cut into the corvette body. I added a 1/24th 53 corvette grill. It has more meat to it and closer to what is needed.. There are parts to 5 different vettes on this so far,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,last post for today...enjoy it is getting closer. Not all vettes are created equal...even in the same scale they do not match up to each other...there are little differences between manufacturers so there is a little fudging to do or filing to get parts to fit.

I have the frame started...I had to add 1 " to the length. I started to do the front steering and found I don't have all the parts,,,,I am missing spindles. Might rob them out of a new 58 corvette kit. The body is taking shape along with the side spears. lot of sanding and filling and sanding little low spots or pin holes....I may have a coat of primer on this week end. Then I have to finish the chassis and the interior...

 

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