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#1 Foxer

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:20 AM

I know I shouldn't be starting yet another build, but my '91 944 is approaching paint and this one, both of which I owned, is the same Guards Red and I should have both ready for my most hated model task .. PAINTING! :lol:

 

I located an old Testors 944S kit which has the front bumper showing correctly. I think I have some Fuchs wheels coming from a gracious member, o-man, also. And I located a Monogram 924 kit to supply the old, 924 style dash.

 

I'm going to try something I've never done before with this one ... build a CURBSIDE! I'm going crazy again on the engine for the '91 944 and figure I should give myself a break. :lol:

 

Here's a body shot along side the '91 ...

 

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Edited by Foxer, 08 November 2013 - 10:04 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 12:07 PM

Wheels are on the way.  Should be there Tuesday if Postal Service estimates are correct.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:11 PM

Major differences in the two cars from the looks of it.

 

Mike, we KNOW you can do a quality job- that van showed that. And I know you'll do a good job with this.

 

Charlie Larkin



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:44 PM

Looking forward to your build...



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:25 PM

You know I will be watching this Mike......being I had one as well.

 

Bring it on!



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:03 PM

Nice project Mike. Looks like your going to end up with a spectrum of 944's in your display cabinet! Do you have plans to build the Hasagawa 968 as well? 

 

If you are building a pre 1985 944 (I guess you are because of the dash from the 924 kit) then I expect that you are aware of the different windscreen too. The early 944 had a windscreen that was recessed about 1/2 inch, whereas the post 1985 944 had a flush fit windscreen. Having said that, It's not a major issue and I doubt anyone would notice.

 

Good luck with this project Mike. I look forward to seeing your progress.



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:48 AM

Nice project Mike. Looks like your going to end up with a spectrum of 944's in your display cabinet! Do you have plans to build the Hasagawa 968 as well? 

 

If you are building a pre 1985 944 (I guess you are because of the dash from the 924 kit) then I expect that you are aware of the different windscreen too. The early 944 had a windscreen that was recessed about 1/2 inch, whereas the post 1985 944 had a flush fit windscreen. Having said that, It's not a major issue and I doubt anyone would notice.

 

 

I do have two 968 kits along with a junker. One of them donated it's engine for the build of my '91 944. I had planned to replace the '91 with a 968 but could never find one since so few were made. Someday I'll build a 968 and who knows how that might get  modified!

 

I forgot about the windshield getting flush and I'm NOT going there! :lol:  ... this is supposed to be a simple build!



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:10 AM

One of these?

http://www.ebay.com/...=item4d1268668f



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:49 AM

 

I have that kit and another I got cheap and all in yellow that donated it's 3.0 liter engine to the '92. :)  It's based off the 944 turbo kit with new body and many new pieces in the engine compartment. Otherwise it's the same trees.


Edited by Foxer, 14 September 2013 - 02:51 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:00 AM

I found a junk yard on ebay 11 cars including two 944 and a 968 .. two are Hasegawa and red one is a Testors. I was needing mirrors for my '91 build and this seemed like a fun buy. They are pretty low level builds with gallons of tube glue used! :D  At least I got the needed mirrors.

 

The Testors kit used for the build here doesn't have a sunroof which I need to scribe for this build. After debating my options, including cutting out a brass sheet, I decided I's sacrifice a body and cut out the sunroof to trace with the scriber. The two 944's are now sitting in the freezer ... they don't seem to want to pop apart with all that glue. :lol:

 

I may also hack a chunk of the inner front fender of the red Testors one to patch the hole I cut in my '91 build to install the Testors reservoir and headlight motors. :)

 

Fun, FUN, FUN!

 

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Edited by Foxer, 14 September 2013 - 06:03 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:33 PM

Sounds like fun projects. Makes me want to return to my still born 1983 US spec 944 I started, um, a long time ago.....



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 07:41 PM

Great find on the German junkyard Mike!



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 02:57 AM

Sounds like fun projects. Makes me want to return to my still born 1983 US spec 944 I started, um, a long time ago.....

 

We see eye to eye!   :lol:  ... the '91 I had that I'm also building started sometime in the mid- '90's!  :o



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 03:58 AM

Nice work so far!  Looks like fun projects.  



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:17 AM

yes ... Porsches WERE harmed in this process!

 

The junkyard just keeps donating ...

 

 

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a 924 gave up it's console and dash

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a Testors 944 burped up an inner fender for my '91 build.

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Edited by Foxer, 15 September 2013 - 10:04 AM.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 11:17 AM

:lol: /\ Good stuff Mike!



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:38 AM

The tires are set I think. I got the rims o-man sent and they are just right! They even scale out to about 15". The kit tires are a bit large as far as the rims go .. they are 17" in the kit. The sidewalls are too skinny though .. my 944 had 60 profile tires while the kit uses 50 series. I found tires on a Tamiya Mercedes 500 SL that look right. The interior diameter is also slightly smaller and will fit better also.

 

Here's a shot of the wheels and tires I need on an '84 944 ...

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and here's the rims with the kit tires on the left and the 500 SL tires on the right.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:13 AM

Hey Mike, I kinda like the look of the ones on the left better of the two. Looks like the right ones are closer to a 70 series when compared to the rim size/ rim edge.

 

When you black out the center of the rim, the wheel will look smaller to the eye because of the lack of chrome.

 

Just an observation. :)



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 04:23 AM

Hey Mike, I kinda like the look of the ones on the left better of the two. Looks like the right ones are closer to a 70 series when compared to the rim size/ rim edge.

 

When you black out the center of the rim, the wheel will look smaller to the eye because of the lack of chrome.

 

Just an observation. :)

 

I appreciate your eye put to the look of this. I'm sure the rin will look smaller once the center is painted black. It got me into some scaling, as much as possible with a photo. It's really more using ratios. With a good straight on photo of a known 15" '84 rim I ended up with 4.3" for the sidewall dimension ... this is from the middle of the rim edge where the actual 15" rim size would be close to. Measuring the sidewall of the stock kit tires I get 3.4" and the Mercedes tire measures 4.32". This matches the ratioed dimension off the photo pretty well.

 

The outside diameter of a 215/60-15 tire on 6.5" wide rims is 25.1" ... the diameter doesn't change much with wider rims, thanks to the Tire rack. The kit tire measures 223.8" od while the Mercedes tire is 24.9" od. So the Merc tire seems to match best, at least as close as I can get without a 944 out in the garage. :)  The kit tire does look a lot better than I thought it was in the photo above. The rear tires on my 944 were a size larger .. actually 235/ "something" - 15, but I had to go back to the 225's when I replaced them due to rubbing issues.

 

It actually might look more correct using the kit tires in front and the Merc tires in the rear. I'll have to see when I can mock up the tires on the body.


Edited by Foxer, 18 September 2013 - 04:28 AM.


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 06:24 AM

There you go Mike. I was going to make that suggestion too. To use the kits tires up front and the Mercedes tires out back. Mockup will tell in the end. I can appreciate how far you are going on the measurement end. :) Day in and day out I use metric measurement at work so I have numbers dancing in my head all night. :blink:  :D