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#1 curt raitz

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:03 AM

Was watching "Chasing Classic Cars" on Velocity a few weeks back featuring the Bill Rutan Special.

Not a very attractive car and a definitly a different type of car which show host ol' Wayne Carini regularly diplays

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Bill started with a 1945 VW and a 1958 Porsche Porsche 4-cam engine. He designed the frame rollcage, rear suspension, turned the engine around with the transaxle trailing for better weight distribution and relaced the the twin distributors with an 8 cylinder distributor.

All together the Special only weighed in at 850 lbs.

 

Bill's most famous race was the 1961 Mt. Washington Hill Climb, he had the fastest overall time on the dirt and gravel road. Second overall in this race was Carroll Shelby in a race-prepared Ferrari!

 

I decided this would be a good modeling project, but what version do I build?

The original...not a lot of pictures and a really ugly car.

Decided to build the car in it's current restoration, lots of photos available.

 

Here's a few current photos of the car:

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Gonna use the following kits as donors, mostly cuz I had both in my cupboard.

 

BillRutanSpecial_VWDonorkit-vi.jpg

 

utanSpecial_356PorscheDonorkit1-vi.jpg

 

I know, I know...how can you part out this kit, well...where ya gonna find a Porsche 4-cam engine?

I can still build as a curb side, they provide extra wheels and brakes to build a 356 B or 356 C.

 

I'll be using the 356 B parts and engine/transaxle from the kit.

 

Here's a photo of parts from both kits I may or may not use...

BillRutanSpecial_a-vi.jpg

 

Wheels are from the 356 B and tires from the VW kit

 

Got out the drawing pad, calculator and went to work on getting this thing scaled out to 1/24th scale...resulting in this:

BillRutanSpecialChassisDetail-vi.jpg

 

Time to get working on this thing, should be fun...

thanx for lookin'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



#2 RancheroSteve

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:09 AM

Great - this will be a very cool and different project! What are those wheels on the real car?



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:17 AM

Can you get the same engine out of this kit?

http://www.modelcars...93#entry1010908

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:18 AM

Great - this will be a very cool and different project! What are those wheels on the real car?

 

look to be custom made, should not be hard to duplicate...

kinda look like "VW Centerlines", if such a wheel exists



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:25 AM

Can you get the same engine out of this kit?

http://www.modelcars...93#entry1010908

 

yeah, I've built that engine before...it's Ok, but not as nice as the Fujimi engine

with the engine as visible as it is on this car, I want a good looking engine.

and I don't have an issue with building the Fujimi 356 C as a curbside



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:27 AM

Very good point, you definitely want a nice engine. Cool project!

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:33 AM

Always interesting to learn something new - a good article on Bill Rutan and his car here: http://www.hemmings....n_feature5.html



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:23 AM

Cool car, cool project, nice work on those scale drawings. Super-light hill-climb cars are really something to watch. The Porsche 909 Bergspyder hillclimb cars were also reputed to weigh about 850lb... impressively light for a 275HP, flat-eight powered car..


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:42 AM

Very cool project. Good luck.



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 04:54 AM

awesome project will be watching for sure



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 05:29 AM

Heck yeah, man. Part out that kit. Looks like an awesome project.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 06:29 AM

cool build, keep it up!



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 06:37 AM

Great Project Curt!

I'll be watching the updates... B)



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:13 AM

Now I get to play with the plastic...

removed extra stuff from VW chassis floor:

 

BillRutanSpecial_b-vi.jpg

 

chassis so far...

BillRutanSpecial_h-vi.jpg

 

BillRutanSpecial_j-vi.jpg

 

BillRutanSpecial_i-vi.jpg

 

BillRutanSpecial_l-vi.jpg

 

There are two cross braces on the rear of the chassis I will have to add after the engine is installed

thanx for lookin...

 

 



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:49 AM

I really like the projects you come up with and the swift execution of largely scratchbuilt unique subject matter. when did you start on this? Is this actually two days worth of work ?

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:03 AM

I really like the projects you come up with and the swift execution of largely scratchbuilt unique subject matter. when did you start on this? Is this actually two days worth of work ?

actually it only took about three hours to fabricate what you see...

spent about 8 -10 hours on the scale drawings which really help with the construction



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:27 AM

Great project, Curt! You're killing it already. Nice work!

 

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 09:30 AM

Love the graph paper chassis work, it's much more efficient and convenient than using a computer. How did you do your frame arches and bends? They are nice and even.

 

Keep it up.

 

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 10:04 PM

After seeing the show this was the first thing that crossed my mind - make a model of that car! Now I'm glad I didn't - I would never do it as fast and as good as you are doing it :D

 

Really great work so far and I can't wait for the next update!

 

Good luck with the rest of the project!



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 03:06 AM

What an outstanding project choice!