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#1 38 Crush

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:02 AM

Can anyone out there tell me what kits have a 383 Mopar engine? Everything I come up with has a hemi or a 426. :wacko:



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:21 AM

Revell '69 and '68 Dart GTS kits have one, though the 440 in most other kits could pass for a 383 since they're both in the RB-series family.



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:25 AM

The Revell 68/69 charger came with two engine options one was a 383/440 the other a 426. I also think the 68 Dart had a big block 383.Ross Gibson makes a very nicely done 383 in resin

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:48 AM

Revell '69 and '68 Dart GTS kits have one, though the 440 in most other kits could pass for a 383 since they're both in the RB-series family.


A 383 and the 440 look similar, but aren't quite the same. The 440 is a taller engine than the 383 as well as larger dislacement. You could fool most people in 1:1 by "mis labeling" the engine, get somebody like my Dad, he could not only tell with a quick look at the engine, but then play 20 questions with the owner to see if they know what they got :P

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:12 AM

Revell '69 and '68 Dart GTS kits have one, though the 440 in most other kits could pass for a 383 since they're both in the RB-series family.

The 383 isn't an RB unless you're referring to the 1959-1960 383's. 440 & 426 Hemi's are in the RB ( Raised Block ) family and externally pretty much the same. The Hemi having a few cast in pads for different accessory locations. Hope this helps .


Edited by KingSix, 02 October 2013 - 09:14 AM.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:41 AM

Actually......

The 400 & 383 are B engines
The 413 & 440 are RB (raised block) engines

The Hemi is loosely based an a 413/440 block

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:42 AM

Yep, I got my B- and RB-series mixed up. In scale, the Revell 383 in the Dart kits is probably your best choice, Harold, especially if you want a single carb intake. The exhaust manifolds are specific to the Dart GTS, though, so you might have to scrounge for a different set, depending upon the application.



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:50 AM

Actually......

The 400 & 383 are B engines
The 413 & 440 are RB (raised block) engines

The Hemi is loosely based an a 413/440 block

Very Correct, externally the 383/400 are the same..The same way the 273 , 318, 340, 360 ( LA blocks ) are all , externally, the same .


Edited by KingSix, 02 October 2013 - 09:51 AM.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 11:09 AM

Regardless, if anyone notices the deck height difference in scale, stay away from them. NOTHING good will come from THAT encounter. They look soooo close in scale.... but if your off your medication, you can always sand the deck before attaching the heads and file-fit the intake and be done with it!

 

 

Fun stuff to ponder!



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 11:12 AM

And as for the original question (sorry!) the Revell piece in the Dart kit is nice. If you really want a nice one, get the Ross Gibson resin kit. But it'll cost as much as the entire Dart kit....



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 03:09 PM

There is no need to worry about "mislabeling" the 383/440 from the Revell Dart kits, Revell did it them selves. The original kit was a 69 Dart GTS 383, then they reissued the car as a 68 Mr Norm's Dart GSS 440. They didn't retool the engine, just gave us a new decal for the air cleaner. Yes, there would be a noticeable difference even in scale between a 383 and a 440 but no manufactuer has ever given us a truly accurate B/RB Mopar engine to begin with so any of them could be called any of the various displacements : 350, 361, 383, 400 B or 383, 413, 426, 440RB.



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 03:43 PM

I believe that the decals for the 383 air cleaner are available from Mike's Scale Speed Shop.



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 04:07 PM

...Than there's the 1958-1964 four bolt valve cover retainers ...

 

"B" Engine Family

1958 = 350 and 383

1959-1971 = 361 (through 1966) and 383

1972-1978 = 400

 

"RB" ( Raised-deck B-engine) Family

1959 = 413

1962 = 426-W

1966 = 440 ( only HP engine was the 365hp Chrysler "T-N-T" )

1967-1978 = 440 HP

 

"Gen 3" Hemi

1964 = 426 Hemi

1966-1971 = Street Hemi



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 05:20 PM

...Than there's the 1958-1964 four bolt valve cover retainers ...

 

"B" Engine Family

1958 = 350 and 383

1959-1971 = 361 (through 1966) and 383

1972-1978 = 400

 

"RB" ( Raised-deck B-engine) Family

1959 = 413

1962 = 426-W

1966 = 440 ( only HP engine was the 365hp Chrysler "T-N-T" )

1967-1978 = 440 HP

 

"Gen 3" Hemi

1964 = 426 Hemi

1966-1971 = Street Hemi

 

You left out the 59/60 383 RB engine.



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 12:14 AM

...Than there's the 1958-1964 four bolt valve cover retainer

that's what I have in my 63 chrysler now talk about fun when trying to rebuild that 361 you can only get a six bolt valve cover gasket set. Then buy four bolt valve cover gaskets. I found that just silly

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:22 AM

All the big block Mopar info supplied in this string is nice, but in 1/25 scale, it really doesn't matter all that much- the real differences in scale would be strictly cosmetic- decals and colors.  Same goes for a lotta engines from different manufacturers.  Remember, when you're looking at a 1/25 scale model from a distance of one foot, you are essentially getting the same view that you would be of the real thing at 25 feet.



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 07:42 AM

All the big block Mopar info supplied in this string is nice, but in 1/25 scale, it really doesn't matter all that much- the real differences in scale would be strictly cosmetic- decals and colors.  Same goes for a lotta engines from different manufacturers.  Remember, when you're looking at a 1/25 scale model from a distance of one foot, you are essentially getting the same view that you would be of the real thing at 25 feet.

Good point.



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:50 PM

Boy I want to thank all you guy for your input. It really helps to be in and around a bunch of knowledgeable people to call on thanks again. I building a replica for a friend of a custom '48 Plymouth 6 passenger coupe. the real car has been widened 3 1/2 inches all the way from stem to stern frenched headlights, custom tailights with the boat image in the lenses. Painted candy metalic blue and sits on a' 76 Monte Carlo frame,. plus much more. a It's great 50's custom of a rarely seen car.

 

Again, thanks a ton !!



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 05:35 PM

 

You left out the 59/60 383 RB engine.

:) :) You're right :D but , rest assured , I didn't forget about it ; I just thought , Why bother ? :)



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 04:41 AM

The Lindberg 1964 Dodge 330 has a 383 and a slant six.