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#1 Harry P.

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 01:36 PM

Lately I've posted a lot of my models from the "brass age" and even earlier, the most recent post being the 1886 Daimler Motorkutsche. These have all been "Under Glass" type posts of the finished product, but this time I'm going to do a pretty detailed WIP.

 

The subject: a 1/16 scale Dennis fire truck I bought on ebay. Dennis was a British manufacturer of commercial vehicles including buses, fire trucks, airport service vehicles, and more. The specific subject of this thread has been issued under various brand names over the years... this happens to be the Entex version. The kit is very nice... a lot of detail, a lot of working features, and a lot of parts... more than 500. The kit is molded in black, red, white, blue, brass plated, matte chrome (aluminum) plated, brown, and clear, and includes wiring, tubing, steel grommets, string, gears, chain, and all sorts of various other detail parts including four fireman figures in vintage uniforms (two seated and two standing). The finished model is about 17 inches long. Here's a shot of the box cover:

 

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And here's a shot of the real thing:

 

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I plan to chronicle this project fairly intensely, step by step, and I will explain my techniques and procedures as I go along, including what is for me a "first," painting the firemen figures.

 

Yeah, I'm going to give away my detailing "secrets!"  :D

 

Stay tuned... 



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 01:45 PM

I definately be tuned in to this one, I know it will be first class, you build great stuff, so get the party started!!!  ;)  :D  



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 01:46 PM

Looking forward to this.

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 03:33 PM

So glad you are doing a wip. I look forward to seeing how you improve the kit parts or scratchbuild. BTW did you ever finish that plane you were working on ? I may have missed the final photos.



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 03:34 PM

So glad you are doing a wip. I look forward to seeing how you improve the kit parts or scratchbuild. BTW did you ever finish that plane you were working on ? I may have missed the final photos.

 

No, the plane is still in progress. It got kind of sidetracked by other stuff, but I will add new photos.



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 05:11 PM

I've been keeping an eye out for this kit,so I'll be checking this out for sure.Can't wait to see what you do with it,as I have the Heller Delahaye Bonneville in waiting,which is somewhat similar to this.Show me the way!

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:37 PM

Sounds like an amazing kit and it's in the right hands.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 04:21 AM

Are you going to swap out the wheels? The kit wheels look more period-correct than the real one.

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#9 Harry P.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 04:32 AM

Are you going to swap out the wheels? The kit wheels look more period-correct than the real one.

 

The one in the photo is a slightly later model year, I think. I'll be keeping the kit wheels.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 04:48 AM

OK... let's start some actual building!

 

When it comes to small parts, I have a specific way of doing things. I don't paint small parts while still attached to the sprues, for two reasons: First, almost every kit part has some sort of flaw or imperfection that should be taken care of before painting... like mold seam lines, ejector pin parks, sink marks, etc. It's virtually impossible to take care of these things and properly prep parts for paint while they're still attached to the sprue. And second, if you do paint the parts while on the sprue, you then have to clean up the attachment points on the part after you cut it away, meaning you basically have to repaint the part anyway. Better to clean up the part first, paint it, and be done with it. In the following photo you can see how I deal with all small parts. These three engine water pipes were cut from the sprue, sanded smooth to remove the mold seam lines, then attached to scrap pieces of sprue with a tiny dab of crazy glue. I attach the part to the sprues either at the point where it will eventually be attached in final assembly, or at some other point that won't be seen after final assembly. The sprue sticks are my handles while I paint the parts. These water pipes will eventually be sprayed copper:

 

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Here are the exhaust and intake manifolds after being painted and "aged." The exhaust manifold was painted with a mix of acrylic craft paint (red oxide, stell, and black) to simulate rusted iron, and the intake manifold was first sprayed steel, then sprayed with Testors Transparent Window Tint (which is a transparent smoke color) to add depth to the part. The window tint spray does two things: It darkens and "dirties" the part, and also collects in the "nooks and crannies," acting as a blackwash to bring out molded-in details:

 

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The basic engine block has the cylinders molded in place. Here the basic block has been detail painted. The cylinders and the fan support on the front gear case were brush painted Testors Red enamel (the little square bottle) per my reference photos:

 

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And here is the engine a step further down the detailing process. The molded-in details on the tops of the cylinder heads were brush painted a "dirty brass" color (brass plus black), the molded-in exhaust manifold flanges were painted to match the manifold, then the entire assembly got a coat of window tint to bring out the details. Compare this photo to the one above to see the difference the black window tint makes:

 

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More to come...



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 05:23 AM

I have to try that window tint idea. I really tones things down nicely.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:03 AM

The one in the photo is a slightly later model year, I think. I'll be keeping the kit wheels.


In looking it up, one very much like the real one you show was identified as having changed from hard tires to pneumatic tires a few years later, which could explain a wheel change.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:22 AM

Awesome, Harry!  I'll be following along intently.  Good to see you venturing into the "red side" of the hobby.   I'll get your official fire buff credentials ready.   

 

I have a couple of these kits and always thought they would be great material for an IPMS-qualified 'out of box' build.  I also have a couple of the 1/32 versions of the same rig.  Also thought it would be cool to build one of each and display them together. 

 

I'll get to those ideas . . . some day. 

 

Build on, bro!   B)


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:56 AM

I have a couple of these kits...

 

Mine has a missing rear tire. The ebay seller conveniently forgot to mention that. But I got the kit for a good price, so I don't want to return it. Any chance you'd be willing to part with one of the rear tires? Or are you actually going to build that kit some day? 



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 10:09 AM

 

Mine has a missing rear tire. The ebay seller conveniently forgot to mention that. But I got the kit for a good price, so I don't want to return it. Any chance you'd be willing to part with one of the rear tires? Or are you actually going to build that kit some day? 

 

 

Lemme see what I can do for you!  

 

Is that the tire you've been ... ahem ... casting about about getting it cast?   :P



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 10:15 AM

 

 

Lemme see what I can do for you!  

 

Is that the tire you've been ... ahem ... casting about about getting it cast?   :P

 

Yup.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:55 PM

Looks like a "Tuturial" build so far and it's only page one.

 

Third subscriber....

 

never too old to learn new tricks as the saying goes.

 

Thanks for the Work In Progress pixs ....very informative.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:50 PM

Interesting trick with the window tint.  Is that the Testors spray stuff that doesn't actually tint windows?



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:06 PM

Interesting trick with the window tint.  Is that the Testors spray stuff that doesn't actually tint windows?

 

It's supposed to be used to tint windows, but I've never used it for that. I use it as sort of a spray-on black wash.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:21 PM

always like looking at your builds, harry. your models ALWAYS look very realistic and so much better than the box art.