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#141 uncle potts

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:00 PM

Harry, how did you fasten the rungs to the side rails on the ladder? And what kind of jig did you use, if any? I'm building a fire truck, in a much smaller scale, but any tips you have I could use. I'm building a two section ladder and could use some ideas. Thanks,

                           Paul

 

 

P.S. Love this build, I've always admired your work.


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#142 Harry P.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:40 AM

Here are the three ladders with all the miscellaneous brackets, pulleys, and guides attached. Lower ladder in the back, upper (narrowest) ladder in the front. I also added a black wash (naturally!  :D ) where the rungs meet the rails.

 

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Paul... the one ladder that was in the kit (the narrowest one) was used as a template to build the replacement in wood. Then looking at the instruction book illustrations, I saw how the three ladders nested into each other, so I measured the width of the narrow ladder to get the needed width of the middle ladder and cut the rungs to the required length... then after building the middle ladder I measured the width to get the needed width of the lower ladder, etc.

 

The way I built the ladders was like this: I laid the one existing plastic kit ladder down right at the edge of my work surface, then laid a wooden ladder rail against it, laid 2-3 rungs down to get the correct spacing between the rails, then the other ladder rail. I made sure the wooden rails and the ends of the kit ladder all lined up, then I laid a couple of thin flat pieces of scrap wood down on each end, on top of the kit ladder and my wooden rails, and used a couple of large spring clamps to lock everything down tight. I laid down two thin strips of styrene between my wooden rails, to keep the rungs properly centered within the rails, then just glued each rung in place between the wooden rails with a drop of super glue at each rung end, using the kit ladder as the guide to space my rungs. I used a small piece of wood with a perfect 90 degree angle that fits between the rails as a small square to square up each rung before I glued it into place. Once I had all of the center rungs glued in, I removed the clamps and finished gluing the rest of the rungs onto each end of the ladder, still using the existing kit ladder as my spacer guide.



#143 Harry P.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:02 PM

Here is the bottom ladder with all the bells and whistles attached:

 

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:46 AM

Stunning work Harry, I remember building the 1/32nd scale Airfix one many year ago ....... Dennis is still going over here, now trading under the name of John Dennis Coachbuilders.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:29 AM

Superb work Harry!

 

Are you spraying the paint from the can or decanting it in an AB?

 

Gorgeous either way.

 

G



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:30 AM

Superb work Harry!

 

Are you spraying the paint from the can or decanting it in an AB?

 

Gorgeous either way.

 

G

 

Right out of the can.



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:51 PM

One of my basic modeling philosophies is to scratchbuild instead of relying on aftermarket parts. In some cases, you can't avoid using aftermarket parts... for example, on my Pocher Mercedes that I have posted in the past,  I used aftermarket headlights, (among other things), because I have no way of scratchbuilding chrome-plated headlight buckets. But if I can scratchbuild a part, I do. Here is a perfect example. There are no sources of 1/16 scale turnbuckles that I know of, but looking at what a turnbuckle is, I figured I could scratchbuild one pretty easily.

 

The kit supplies a length of chain for this application, but my reference photos all show that these braces were actually steel cable, not chain. The turnbuckles are made of various bits and pieces of styrene, sheet aluminum, and aluminum tubing and rod. The "steel" cable is plain old heavy-duty gray sewing thread. Once I had the turnbuckles built, I sprayed them silver, then transparent window tint (my favorite detailing "secret weapon!") to darken and define them. Then I attached the cables and turnbuckles, painted the thread with a metallic steel color acrylic craft paint, and finally added a black wash (my "secret formula" of water, Future and black acrylic craft paint). Here's the result:

 

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 03:42 PM

Nice!



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 04:01 PM

Looks great !



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 08:33 PM

Nice.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 08:38 PM

Harry,you should have been a surgeon.  That is excellent.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 01:26 AM

 That's FANTASTIC Harry!!  :D 



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:36 PM

Even though I only had one ladder to work off of, careful measurement allowed me to build all three ladders with the accuracy necessary to allow them to nest and slide without binding. Here are the ladders in the retracted position (minus the cables to raise/lower them yet to be installed):

 

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I'm very happy with how this assembly turned out. The fact that the ladders are made of real wood adds so much to the look of realism.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 03:31 PM

Harry, you continue to dazzle us with your craftsmanship.  Bravo sir!!!!



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 04:05 AM

Wonderful scratch building, everything so perfectly scaled and realistic.

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 10:51 AM

Wow, awesome!

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 12:25 PM

I'm waiting for some custom-made decals to come through the mail... should be any day now. Once they get here, I can decal the main body and put this one all together.

 

Edit: Just checked the mailbox (6 PM)... no decals came today. Looks like early next week, then, when this baby gets wrapped up and put "Under Glass."  ;)



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 08:29 PM

My goodness Harry, if I showed this to my nephew, I'm sure he would say they you're "sicker" than what he claims I am. :D  (meant in a totally kool way BTW :) )

 

The level of detail you have garnered for, and succeeded to achieve is just mind blowing mate, GREAT work! That ladder is a working piece of Art alone.... B) 



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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:35 AM

A better look at the scratchbuilt turnbuckles:

 

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And the finished ladder carriage...

 

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 11:04 AM

Ah, another Harry . Ladder assembly looks great !