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#81 Ace-Garageguy

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:15 AM

 

Mark,  Vehicles prior to1966 is the cutoff for emissions in the State of Arizona. Vehicles after 1975 are required to have functioning emissions system to be considerd legal for use in the county containment area. 

 

Doesn't this vary by county in Az., or is it statewide?



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:30 PM

 

Doesn't this vary by county in Az., or is it statewide?

Bill the two counties in Arizona doing an Emission testing program are Maricopa,which is the metro Phoenix areas, and Pima, which is the Tucson area. It is based on the population, and region. By using guidelines from the Federal Government. 

 Many people who own land outside of the county, or knows a relative/ friend outside of the county. Have in the past used those addresses to circumvent the law, when there is an issue with passing an Emission test. The State issues a registration tag that is different in color, for that reason, Owners who drive into the Containment area with one of those vehicles can be ticketed for that offense. 


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:51 PM

Bill the two counties in Arizona doing an Emission testing program are Maricopa,which is the metro Phoenix areas, and Pima, which is the Tucson area. It is based on the population, and region. By using guidelines from the Federal Government. 

 Many people who own land outside of the county, or knows a relative/ friend outside of the county. Have in the past used those addresses to circumvent the law, when there is an issue with passing an Emission test. The State issues a registration tag that is different in color, for that reason, Owners who drive into the Containment area with one of those vehicles can be ticketed for that offense. 

So, to clarify...

 

Rancher Brown lives in East West Overshoe in Gnat-bite County and drives his '77 Chevy pickup (his only vehicle) to Phoenix for the day to do some shopping and remind himself of what other people look like. The truck is registered at his ranch, where it should be.

 

That simple act of providing your own transportation would result in getting ticketed for driving a legally-registered, insured (if Arizona requires it?), inspected and approved vehicle will create a fine for you??

 

Sounds ever so slightly un-American, not to mention a gross restriction of all kinds of freedoms, etc. And plain stupid.

 

With that kind of behavior, I was considering Arizona for "someday," or perhaps to buy some property to escape the winter here.

 

Not with the government behaving like that.

 

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:34 PM

Every state has silly stuff like that, some far worse than others. Live where you want to live.

 

And the police ticket owners with out-of county tags but with Maricopa or Pinal county addresses on their licenses, and would most likely leave the farmer with another county tag and address alone.

 

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:50 AM

I was an old school mechanic but trained to work on the computer cars too....our 84 Chevy pickup has a computer in it just not hooked up anymore....now its more fuel efficient and runs better much more reliable. 



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 05:23 AM

This topic has made me think of a lot of things, good and bad.

One of the things is this picture

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I was born in 1963, my Dad had this '35 Ford before I was born and was one that he never sold.

He wanted this picture of his 1935 Ford with his new at the time 1985 Ford Tempo-to show the difference over 50 years.

Now that picture is 28 years old. :blink:



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 05:44 AM

There is a good chance the '35 is still around.  As for the '85...probably not



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 07:13 AM

i donno, i am 24 and very much appreciate the old cars and technology, i look at it as a bigger variety to my choices, i mean all these kids i consider my peers know nothing better than their leased altimas maximas and accords, or in some cases bmw 5 series but i dont know many rich ppl! Its all about knowing it all and how it was and what from then reflects on the parts now. Also speaking about auto parts business, as long as you stay away from Autozone ( which honestly needs to be destroyed! horrible company!) you should be good. I worked in autozone as a delivery driver september and october, and i had to quit. They treat customers like utter garbage, often sneaking in some sort of grease packets into their purchase without them asking for it! i mean what the! They focus a lot more on you tugging in your shirt or the way your name tag hangs or the color of your socks than the real stuff like helping people with cars, talking about various car parts and things of this matter. The commercial manager who was dispatching my devilries, was a total tool. I mean the guy sat all day in that desk waiting on calls and just buried in his cell phone if no calls were coming. He often made me do awful tasks such as cleaning bathrooms or buying the management lunch or drinks. I used to design and build people outdoor kitchens and grills at home depot, and now this? I still suffered through it and just did my job but then i got into a literal fight with the commercial manager when i called him a lazy sob for sitting at desk all day and telling me i don't make deliveries on time when i met each quota by 15-10 minutes before. Total idiot. He proceeded to threaten me that he will find where i live and his boys are going to wreck my car and spray paint my apt door... that was it for me. I called Autozones regional managers, HR's and even got to speak to bill rhodes. All of them 0 help and totally corporate brain washed. DO NOT BUY FROM AUTOZONE!



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 07:16 AM

Omg really. Since you feel that way then you did autozone and yourself a favor by quiting. But I will tell you you had a poor store manager then if he let that go on.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:31 AM

honestly it was mostly the fact that they paid 8.75$ an hour in new york city and there was barely any work to begin with. You cannot survive here for 980$ dollars a month, that's just a laughing joke. I am sure people will tell me how hard they worked with lower wages and such in other places but trust me, you cant do anything here for 980$ a month! Got myself an interview at Columbia University for their groundskeeper job which is like 17/hr plus benefits and full time right away, unlike these corporate giants who will make u work part time 40 hours just to not give you benefits or full holiday pay. My rent alone here is 1050$ for a one BR apartment in Bensonhurst Brooklyn, is rather low since most people pay 1500+ these days so i got lucky.  You could get something cheaper here but it will be in a location such as crown heights or bushwick. 

Also i am sure more autozone horror stories around here, i am quite sure that company is probably more appreciated in the south or mid west but i prefer napa or pepboys all the way.



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:30 AM

I'm sure all companies have issues. But sometimes just changing jobs is for the best. Been there and done that. Autozone has a pledge and code all employees are expected to follow and this is reinforced from the first day of training on. And that's from the lowely red shirt partimer to the ceo.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 06:09 PM

To Clarify,

 Rancher Brown is free to drive around the State of Arizona all he wants. His truck is legally registered in Gnat-bite County, However if he decides to take residence in Maricopa County or Pima with his 1977 chevy pickup, He then must register it in Maricopa County or Pima and have it pass an Emission test. Once again it has to do with population, and region, in Phoenix we live in a Bowl, aka the Valley of the Sun. We have a huge problem with pollution, especially during the winter months.

 

Like Mike says, if he was stopped here in Maricopa for some reason the officer most likely would not ticket, if his residence is outside of the containment area because Rancher Brown is just a visitor. 



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 06:15 PM

 Rancher Brown is free to drive around the State of Arizona all he wants. His truck is legally registered in Gnat-bite County, However if he decides to take residence in Maricopa County or Pima with his 1977 chevy pickup, He then must register it in Maricopa County or Pima and have it pass an Emission test.

 

I dunno but dumb local laws just drive me nutz!  It seems for something as important as vehicle emissions there should be one federal standard that applies to everyone.  There's only one ozone layer!



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 06:18 PM

The biannual emissions test for registration here is not a big deal...I'm usually in and out in 15 minutes when I get it done...I've gone on Tues or Wed around 5pm in the middle of the month before...end of the month and Saturdays is when the testing stations get busy, I've heard.



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 06:21 AM

 

I dunno but dumb local laws just drive me nutz!  It seems for something as important as vehicle emissions there should be one federal standard that applies to everyone.  There's only one ozone layer!

I dunno if the air is clean in your County. Do you want to pay for someone else's dirty air problem. Most likely not. The Majority of people in Arizona seem to be Retirees, who dont want or can't to pay for anything.I dont want to get in to the Root Politics of the problem.



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 06:36 AM

 

I dunno but dumb local laws just drive me nutz!  It seems for something as important as vehicle emissions there should be one federal standard that applies to everyone.  There's only one ozone layer!

 

I have to heartily (and respectfully) disagree. Why should a guy, like me maybe, have to keep a vintage vehicle that's HARDLY EVER DRIVEN, contributes almost nothing measurable to environmental pollution (and is located in an area where there IS NO measurable pollution because of weather patterns and low population density) as clean as a late-model vehicle that's driven constantly, spends probably the majority of its time idling in traffic jams or the lazy-line in front of the fast food emporiums (WASTING the majority of the irreplaceable fossil-fuel it burns) and spews many many more times the volume of effluent into the environment?


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 08:10 AM

 

I have to heartily (and respectfully) disagree. Why should a guy, like me maybe, have to keep a vintage vehicle that's HARDLY EVER DRIVEN, contributes almost nothing measurable to environmental pollution (and is located in an area where there IS NO measurable pollution because of weather patterns and low population density) as clean as a late-model vehicle that's driven constantly, spends probably the majority of its time idling in traffic jams or the lazy-line in front of the fast food emporiums (WASTING the majority of the irreplaceable fossil-fuel it burns) and spews many many more times the volume of effluent into the environment?

 

Bill you are reading things into my statement.  Vintage vehicles are generally exempt from current state inspections and emissions because of the very reasons you state.  Older cars used as transportation are  tested to make sure they are performing to the standards they were built to, and not to be as clean as a late model car. They can't be by their design.

 

It doesn't matter if your vehicle is polluting your county, it's much bigger than that.  All pollution goes upward and becomes a smog slick up in the atmosphere.  So each vehicle counts.  I do agree with your comment on idling vehicles and those in traffic. Cities that are specifically smoggy have started programs to turn their taxi fleets over to hybrid, and eventually electric. Big issues are the emerging vehicle markets in China and India where emissions laws are lax or non-existent. Again, the emissions from these vehicles will eventually choke us all.

 

I was at a facility management industry meeting at PJM Interconnection in Valley Forge, PA last evening. They are the company that manages the power grid on the eastern half of the USA and Canada.  The management of the grid is absolutely fascinating.  But the big thing was a Mini Cooper in their lobby. It's an electric vehicle concept that they are working on.  Where the issue with electric cars is the range due to battery technology, the cars they're working with pulls it's electricity from the grid, and sends back surplus stored electricity from the car's batteries.  They are not far from having a totally electric unlimited range vehicle.   Very cool indeed.



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 08:34 AM

 

I  the cars they're working with pulls it's electricity from the grid, and sends back surplus stored electricity from the car's batteries.  They are not far from having a totally electric unlimited range vehicle.   Very cool indeed.

 

Indeed. I'd like to learn more about getting power directly from the grid, I assume, during operation. Nicola Tesla had supposedly developed technology making it possible to "broadcast" electrical power sufficient to do actual work (as opposed to weak broadcast energy streams like radio).

 

I have a 1955 copy of Motor Trend that has an article about an early hybrid (yes, 1955), the builders of which also claim to have broadcast energy technology...and it was to be the next step after the hybrid.