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#1 wmobie

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:40 AM

Just bought the book OLD BARN, by Sebastian and Ignacio Perez from MODEL JUNKYARD. I am going to try to build a rural gas station diorama this winter. The question for you is where do I find the wood necessary to build it?  They provide a list but no sources any ideas out there? Thanks in advance for any help, love the wonderful work you all do.

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#2 crazyrichard

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:48 AM

whell i have wooden coffee stirers from ikea ... i dont know if you have a ikea in your earea , if you do go drink coffe and take as many as ..... usually i ask somebody if i can take a hand full for modelbuilding ..

they are perfect for a barn or rural gasstation because they are all different , as far as coffe stirrers go they suck and are lousy and cheap , but for our need they are perfect ..
the edges are never straight and the have imperfections all over ....best ever for older buildings

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 03:32 PM

What is the scale you are working with, and do you have the ability to cut the wood?

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 03:38 PM

You can get wood from a hobby shop.  Don't go balsa, it will warp in time.  Buy basswood, that's what I use for all my builds.

 

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1/25 scale playhouse build from Popular Mechanics full size plans from basswood.



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 03:50 PM

Northeastern scale lumber

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 04:03 PM

Northeastern scale lumber

 

 

Ditto on this one. Also you can get there stuff from Walther's. If not use Basswood.



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:46 AM

http://www.northeast...calelumber.com/

 

http://cloverhouse.com/Store/

 

detail parts:  http://www.ozarkmini...pts/default.asp



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:36 AM

ridershobby.com--------------------------------in michigan has a large selection of scale wood products fast delivery too .but if you have a tabletop table saw with a fine tooth blade you can mill your own hope this helps



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:52 AM

I wouldn't discard the idea of using balsa strips for the siding. It can easily be worked with a razor saw and an Exacto blade to achieve a weathered look...... and it takes stain well, soaking into the wood. I buy mine at Michaels using their discount coupons and that makes it very economical. I usually buy the 3" or 4" wide x 36" long pieces x 1/32" thick, and cut it down to the size of the strips I need. Precut strips are too expensive by comparison.

But Basswood (also available at Michaels) is best for structural work such as framing, rafters, etc. All you need is Elmers white glue to "stick it together". (Even cheapy dollar store "school glue" will work fine but usually takes longer to set up firmly.)

Personally, I use coffee stirrers for fencing and stuff like that, but I find they are usually too hard a texture to really weather successfully if you're looking for the "dilapidated" look.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:27 AM

But Basswood (also available at Michaels) is best for structural work such as framing, rafters, etc. All you need is Elmers white glue to "stick it together". (Even cheapy dollar store "school glue" will work fine but usually takes longer to set up firmly.)

 

 

I use the Elmers Carpenter Glue for my scale woodwork.  It comes in the same type of bottle that the white glue does, but is a yellowish color.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 04:51 AM

Tom......  Sometimes, for real structural strength, I also use Elmers Carpenter's glue ... but it dries very hard with that yellowish color, excess is hard to remove and it is difficult to cover with thinned out stain.  White glue though dries almost clear and any excess is easier to remove, either by sanding or slicing off with a sharp Exacto blade.

 

I personally find the strength achieved with Elmers white glue is more than adequate for most purposes (and it's a little cheaper!).

 

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 09:11 AM

Tom,I used basswood where it was applicable when I built my 1925 Indian gas station dio this past spring and used Loctite superglue gel almost exclusively.I am not patient waiting for stuff to dry and will somtimes put the superglue on one surface and "kicker"on the other.The alignment has to be right on the mark for correct alignment the first time but it surely speed up construction.Another suggestion would be to have some small clamps handy to hlod the beams tight togeather reguardless of what adhesive you use.

Of course everyone has their own methods that work correctly for them.I would suggest testing diffrent glues until you find what works right for you and the project.I have looked at that same set of plans on line more than once and given serious thought about doing a post and beam barn.There are a lot of those barns around here built in the 1880's.A lot of those still have their original slate roofs.Unique to only the barns in this area I'm told are those with the family name spelled out in contrasting color slates.This was a common thing done by the Eurpoean German ancestors of those early immigrants coming to this part of Ohio in the mid 1800's.

Be sure to post your progress here so we can all follow along with the build and most importantly....have fun with it!

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:42 AM

A correction........

 

I just realized I referred to using 1/32" thick balsa for siding.  That's because I build in 1/32 scale...... so the siding is about 1" thick to scale!  Obviously the thickness of the balsa should reflect the scale in which you are building!

 

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 07:21 AM

I found these coffee stirrers at Staples. They cost $ 1.99 for a 1000 sticks. I built several structures with it. They look good just as it is, or stained or painted.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:57 PM

I found these coffee stirrers at Staples. They cost $ 1.99 for a 1000 sticks. I built several structures with it. They look good just as it is, or stained or painted.

 

you are spot on , those are perfect on scale i always use coffee stirrers , usually i ask if i can take a handfull in certain places , like ikea those are all warped and imperfect they are perfect for a old barn , but those you show are perfect for just about anything ..

i was about to search for boxes to buy like that myself (here in holland)

schep as .. if you could buy that in a modelstore you would pay like €€€ or $$$$



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Posted 02 December 2013 - 03:35 PM

i was about to search for boxes to buy like that myself (here in holland)
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Richard, I found them at staples.com, for $ 2.99. About 70 % of the sticks are good to use. A few are warped, but some you can still bend back to a more useable shape. Some have nice woodgrain in it, makes it look very real! What I particullarly like about these sticks is that they have square ends, not rounded ends. Plus you can cut them to size with scissors if needed.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 03:53 PM

Great idea with the coffee stirrers .



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 05:02 AM

Richard, I found them at staples.com, for $ 2.99. About 70 % of the sticks are good to use. A few are warped, but some you can still bend back to a more useable shape. Some have nice woodgrain in it, makes it look very real! What I particullarly like about these sticks is that they have square ends, not rounded ends. Plus you can cut them to size with scissors if needed.


i'm in holland but .. i already found a box with 10.000 sticks for 18 euro's lol thats nothing then i have 10.000 sticks (whow)
also found the 1000 sticks boxes for like 2 euro
so i will be ordering a box of 10.000 i think lol
and that way i dont have to beg for some at the coffeeshop or ikea

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 04:37 PM

i will be ordering a box of 10.000


Wow! 10.000! You can built a model of the Eiffel Tower with that many! :-) Good deal!

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 09:46 AM

Thank you all very much, what a joy to have so many "friends" who are so knowledgeable and willing to share.

Walter O'Brien