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#41 1972coronet

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:00 PM

More often than not , I cannot stand for wheels bigger than 15" in diametre and-or rubber band tyres ; however , I saw this photo earlier and for once I found myself saying , " Whoa ! That's actually nice !".

 

A little inspiration for the up-coming 1970 'Cuda :

 

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:51 PM

Nice car, but you can keep the tires and wheels, I just will never like them.



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:39 AM

OH yes,,,,, you gotta love Sickfish !!!!!!

 

It looks good enough for me. I'll probably build several, a few of them I'll probably cut up beyond recognition anyway.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:11 AM

... not to mention that there are other "dimensional" considerations , too . Things like , say , cowl vent depth :  narrow and shallow may be how the vents are on the real "1:1" car ; however , when those vents are scalled-down to 25th their size , they appear as though they'd get buried under one coat of primer !

Take the hood scoops' height for another instance ; perhaps they'll "look right" once the requisite primer and colour coats are applied .

 

Moot Point : 1970 Barracudas and Challengers were built in two different assembly plants : Hamtramck (Detroit) and Commerce (Los Angeles) . The only exceptions being :

1.) AAR and T/A

2.) Hemi models

3.) Convertibles

4.) Special Orders (colour combinations , and-or the above mentioned models)

Those models were built only in the Detroit plant .

It'd stand to reason that there *may* be differences in the stampings . I know that Los Angeles' fender tags have a totally different font for the characters .


Edited by 1972coronet, 19 April 2013 - 10:13 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 08:46 AM

Given that I'm not a Mopar guy, what differences are there between the 70 and the 72 Cudas?  The grille, at least at first glance, appears to be similar if not the same.  The taillights are obviously different.  Are there other differences?  Don't roast me, guys! LOL



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 10:10 AM

The round taillights on the '72 totally destroy the coolness IMHO and turn the muscle car into a granny-mobile

So I prefer the '70 & '71 models and do not care about the '72 and '73, hence me not having the mpc snapper.


Edited by Luc Janssens, 11 October 2013 - 10:28 AM.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 10:24 AM

Given that I'm not a Mopar guy, what differences are there between the 70 and the 72 Cudas?  The grille, at least at first glance, appears to be similar if not the same.  The taillights are obviously different.  Are there other differences?  Don't roast me, guys! LOL

Taillights and taillight panel, grille, front turn signals, engine choices--the big blocks being only available in '70-71.   So MPC's '72-74 annual kits w/ Hemis were wrong.. :)


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 10:49 AM

Thanks to both of you...

 

Is the base body of the 72 the same as the 70?  The reason I ask that is I read where the Challenger and Barracuda have a different wheelbase.  I don't know if that's true, but if so, I was surprised to read that because I thought their chassis were identical with different sheetmetal attached.  If we're talking body-only matters, what differences are there between the 70 and 72 grille?  Is the taillight panel difference due only to the obvious taillight change or are there other changes to it re contour or other?  Guess I should probably just find pics of 1:1s in both years and see if I can figure it out so I don't have to bother you guys... :)


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:17 PM

As far as dimensions all year 1970-1974 Cuda / Barracuda body shells are identical.

difference's lie in the ornamentation. such as the grille , sidemarkers and tail lights.

Tail light panel itself is the same ( outside of the tail lights themselves) such as recessed license plate , fuel filler etc etc

rear valance is the same externally(there are  mounting difference's but are not seen once installed )

Grille is obviously different -

1970 - one year only

1971 - one year only

1972-1974 are all the same ( same rule applies the plastic ft valance insert)

sidemarkers are the same for 1970-1971

sidemarkers are the same 1972-1974

 

Outside of drivetrain - virtually nothing interchanges between Challenger and Barracuda - any year


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:24 PM

Thanks to both of you...

 

Is the base body of the 72 the same as the 70?  The reason I ask that is I read where the Challenger and Barracuda have a different wheelbase.  I don't know if that's true, but if so, I was surprised to read that because I thought their chassis were identical with different sheetmetal attached.  I

Challenger wheelbase is 3 inches longer, IIRC...google it or check Wikipedia for confirmation.   As far as the Barracuda/Cuda grilles, '70 has the turn signals in the upper grille area and '72-74 has them under the bumper, a detail that MPC forgot on their kits..  and '70 and '72-74 have 2 headlights, while the '71 has 4 headlights and the turn signals set into the pan.

 

I have resin '70 conversion parts (grilles, taillight panel, etc) to use w/ the once-common '80s issue MPC '74s, but never got around to building them...also have the MPC '70-74 annuals, 6 of '80s issue '74s, the '74 'Pro Street' version, a couple of the '74 snap kits, the Monogram '70 & '71 kits, but am still looking forward to getting 2 or 3 of the new kit...


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:03 PM

- 1970-1971 were available in 2 bodystyles : hardtop ("23") and convertible ("27")

- 1970 was the only year for the single 4Bbl 440 'Super Commando'

- 1971 340 was equipped with the then-new Carter Thermo-Quad (800 cfm) ; this continued from 1972-1974 .

- 1971 was the last year for convertibles (although certain t.v. programmes had their 1971 convertibles cosmetically-converted to 1972 fascia and tail lights / panel , but retained their 1971 VIN's.)

- 1972 was the last year for the Slant Six

- 1972 was the year when one could order a 340 in a Barracuda ( "BH" ) model

- 1972 Rally Wheel centre caps' design changed to an "acorn" shape

- 1972-1974 models all had only one style steering wheel ; the Challenger shared this exact tiller.

- 1973 Electronic ignition became standard

- 1974 models were equipped with the then-new 360 , which replaced the 340 .



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Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:59 PM

So how soon before the drag racing version?



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 02:45 AM

I can't wait until Revell pops out THE most famous Pro Stock version of this kit. And if they don't.....

 

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 04:13 AM

AFAIK, the hockey stick stripe was only avail in black



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 05:14 AM

BTW: The gauntlet has been thrown down for the first ambitious conversion of this highly anticipated kit!!!!

 

 

http://www.forebodie...70-4-door-cuda-!-!



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 05:35 AM

AFAIK, the hockey stick stripe was only avail in black

I know that the red stripe wasn't a factory option , but I'm pretty certain that the stripe was available in white .



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 05:40 AM

I know that the red stripe wasn't a factory option , but I'm pretty certain that the stripe was available in white .

I've seen pics of a white convertible w/ red interior and a black stripe... thinking I'd like to build a coupe in those colors w/ steelies and dog dish hubcaps.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:03 AM

Only seperating the stock issue and typical drag race versions was the hood and usually the intake manifold.

I already have a hood master done using an original MPC hood as a base, so I'll wait to see how it fits this Revell body before it procedes

 

Plus , one could do this one with nothing but a decal change from the S+M car

And I for one am certaintly hoping the aftermkt does multiple decals for the upcoming kit.

 

 

 

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:23 AM

Or a simple decal and wheel change. I've seen another pic of this car and it has the more common six pack style hood scoop

 

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:34 AM

Found it

Can you tell I am really excited to see this kit come to market

 

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