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''OLD 16'' 1906 LOCOMOBILE RACER in 1/16 scale


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#41 Pocherphile

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:30 PM

Just for you Cato, had everything packed military fashion back into the ctn, but I did un-pack to take this photo.

This kit is tha bomb dude, the plastic parts are crisp and have great detail, other than the raditor being abit outta shape and 2 lamps missing, this kit looks like it was mfg'd yesterday.  And by the way, those who build w/balsa knows that the stuff you get today is no where as good as the balsa you would get back when........like 1952, the balsa is alot more dense, tighter fibers......reason for the wood parts still being warp free.  I will post some photos of the wood, did I mention the frame is made of mahogany......I will admitt, some of the parts will be replaced w/pear and apple just for the fact can be finished to a glass smooth w/no wood frizz.  The coach will be built from the wood as comes in kit, and again, the couch on the real car was made of wood, and finished in natural wood.  One of the interesting bits of info, leaf springs are mounted on top of frame to lower the CG, otherwise, the coach of the car would make it top heavy and prone to flipping onto it's side!  No shocks per say, could be added if one desired.

Rick B)

 

PS:  Looks like one of the wheel caps was replaced w/a brown one.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 06:14 PM

A-mazing and thank you kindly!

Warp-free from 1952??? (((gasp)))

I used-to build 1/4 scale R/C a/c in the late '70's and replaced a lot of pulpy wood then...



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 05:10 PM

Well, one has been snagged, or should I say it snagged me ..............of the Hudson kits I have purchased now, this one took a Big Bite!

This brings the total of Hudson Miniature kits to 4 and I am still bidding on a few more to include a few Aurora kits.

Seems my Hobby of late has been spending that hard earned green :huh: .

Rick B)



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 08:36 PM

since you are interested in this Most Famous race car- heres some pics of a version I bought a few years back

the model is 1/16 scale -scratch built in brass,- build date 1968-the builder was Richard Feil of Johnston RI.

it has a very detailed engine.and chassis -trans and chain drive.weighs in at 4.5 lbs.

Mr Feil used blueprints from Jim Ison to build the model.he offered to build one for Peter Helck although the deal never went through.            

he was an industrial designer-silverware seems to pop up now and then on ebay-I have seen about a dozen other antique cars he built.                                                                                                                                                                                                               I know of 2 other versions of this car-mine is #5   


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:13 AM

sorry to say after all that I can not upload it.I have tried everything and the tutorials here dont help.I even opened a photo bucket album but dont understand how to load here-very frusterated.

 

Frank-p'bucket is easy.

I open a thread here and hit the reply button with 'more options'.

That gives you the full editor. Begin a post so you can insert your picture in your post.

In another window, I open P/B and follow the prompts to open an album. Then select 'upload photos'. Your picture folders will be listed and select a file (picture) you want. Upload it in a 'medium' or 'large' size. When the picture appears on P/B, there's a small 'gear' icon on the upper right of it. Click that and select 'get links',

At the bottom of the list, left click that and it will illuminate 'copied'.

Then go to your MCM post and look for an icon across the top that shows a 'link-or lock'. Click that and then right click and paste in the code you got from P/B.

Them select 'preview message' and your picture will be there.

HTH-'cause your stuff's too good not to be seen here.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 09:39 AM

thanks Ill try it.....


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 09:41 AM

That's where you paste the code you got from P'bucket!



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 09:57 AM

 going to try again.........


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 10:56 AM

heres pics of the brass car.H4174-L23053699_zpse5ec974d.jpg


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 11:00 AM

and another version that sold in Germany last year....1-106-4612_zps480ab95f.jpg



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 11:05 AM

thanks Cato for your help-finally got this figured out!!!!!!!!!FS



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 11:15 AM

OLD16MODELS031_zps4c59637e.jpgOLD16MODELS022_zpsc7a30e58.jpgheres some more detail shots from Richard Feil's Version of OLD 16.  and then I will try to get back to my build....OLD16MODELS019_zps365b64e1.jpg



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 11:16 AM

thanks Cato for your help-finally got this figured out!!!!!!!!!FS

Hoooray! And keep posting those beautiful snaps!



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 11:47 AM

CIMG0864_zps5051c7e4.jpgCIMG0795_zpsad57d705.jpgCIMG0863_zps274703d9.jpgback to my Scratch/bash build-H3a2bd57b-d9f1-4488-b069-7ac01de77d3c_zps


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 12:08 PM

well the pics are kinda big- but here you can see the drag link and pitman arm made up as well as the hood straps and buckles from brass wire.  the steering wheel has the ''kill button'' and wire mounted on one of the spokes. the spark and throttle levers and column. pedals and cockpit all in view with the moulding around cowl and body  [solder] radiator and oil caps-all these things scratch built from the blueprints.

the final chain drive and sprockets turned out very nice -a metal etch detail kit for a 1/8 motorcycle was used.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 12:20 PM

I love this beauty and thanks for showing us this cool piece of history........... :wub:

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 12:33 PM

Man-think about flyin' down the road about 50mph perched on that thing. It wants to throw you out, the wind wants to rip you out and the motors tryin' to deafen you and the chain is roarin'. All the controls and pedals have high efforts and what's worse it doesn't wanna stop when you try braking.

God I wish I had one......... -_-



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 01:38 PM

Man-think about flyin' down the road about 50mph perched on that thing. It wants to throw you out, the wind wants to rip you out and the motors tryin' to deafen you and the chain is roarin'. All the controls and pedals have high efforts and what's worse it doesn't wanna stop when you try braking.

God I wish I had one......... -_-

This is about as close as one can get to riding a MC while driving a car...........I concur, I wished I had one too........... :P

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 01:47 PM

OLD 16 had a 16.5 liter engine!  its recorded top speed was 100 mph! the average lap speed was around 65 mph plus during the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race. this means it was probably hitting 90 mph on some parts of the course.

I remember Peter Helck saying in a Road and track article that many times he had seen an 18 inch belch of flame coming from those side pipes!



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 01:51 PM

OLD 16 had a 16.5 liter engine!  its recorded top speed was 100 mph! the average lap speed was around 65 mph plus during the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race. this means it was probably hitting 90 mph on some parts of the course.

I remember Peter Helck saying in a Road and track article that many times he had seen an 18 inch belch of flame coming from those side pipes!

It's apparent why they were called 'brass era cars'-you needed BIG BRASS ONES to drive 'em 100mph!