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#1 grt222

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:08 PM

What can be used instead of buying the pricey aftermarkets?



#2 randx0

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:42 PM

K&S aluminum tubing  , you can try to flare it with an awl or similar tool by placing it in a slightly larger tube and rotating the awl then cutting to size. but it is hard to get consistent results . frankly the AMT set isn't that pricey when you think about the time spent making them . also there are some on ebay that are slightly cheaper than the AMT set you just have to search a little bit .you can also check out the jewelry section at Michaels ,Jo ann or other craft stores for items that may capture the look you want . hope this is helpful.  


Edited by randx0, 14 December 2013 - 06:45 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2013 - 06:26 AM

Another member here recently turned me on to these. Scroll through this guy's other listings...he has several sizes. Hard to beat the price.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item35cf634b7a



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 06:30 AM

This is another source I found by searching the answers to your question already posted on the forum. Many sizes available, VERY cheap.

 

http://www.alliedele...px?SKU=70078419



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 11:32 AM

This is another source I found by searching the answers to your question already posted on the forum. Many sizes available, VERY cheap.

 

http://www.alliedele...px?SKU=70078419

Thanks Bill, that is what i was looking for. $7.50 for 100 is better than $8-$10 for 8.



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 12:14 PM

Bill, those look like they would work great. Thanks. I just bought the AMT aluminum ones to replace the plastic ones in the Rat Packer kit. Paid more for those 8 than I would have for this 100. They also can be used to make good exhaust pipes.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:13 PM

Good tip Bill.

Thanks.

These ferrules are available in Australia from RS Components at $12 for 100.

https://australia.rs...7633D4E4F4E4526

 

One thing though.  If you follow Bills link it takes you to the page for 18 AWG ferrules.  These are just over 1mm in diameter (1" in 1/25) which seems small to me.

For 2mm (scale 2") diameter stacks order 12 AWG ferrules or for 2 1/2mm (scale 2 1/2") order 10 AWG.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 03:06 PM

Can this be cut down if they are to long and if so can you use just a tube cutter.

 

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 02:20 AM

Good tip Bill.


One thing though.  If you follow Bills link it takes you to the page for 18 AWG ferrules.  These are just over 1mm in diameter (1" in 1/25) which seems small to me.

For 2mm (scale 2") diameter stacks order 12 AWG ferrules or for 2 1/2mm (scale 2 1/2") order 10 AWG.

 

Correct, but the same website has a wide variety of sizes for various scales and applications.

 

Scroll down that page for more sizes.


Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 18 December 2013 - 02:24 AM.


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 02:22 AM

Can this be cut down if they are to long and if so can you use just a tube cutter.

 

John Pol

 

A tube cutter tends to crimp the cut ends. A 32TPI razor saw might work better for you.


Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 18 December 2013 - 02:23 AM.


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 04:17 AM

I swear competition resin sells them, fairly inexpensive, but I can't seem to find them on his site. I know they are there somewhere... any help? 



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Posted 18 December 2013 - 10:32 PM

Best way to cut them down is to find a rod that will fit snugly inside them and then using a block so as not to crush the flare roll a knife backwards and forwards at the point where you want to cut.

 

I knew there were other sizes Bill.  I just didn't want someone to click and order without checking the size.

 

I just got a bag of 10AWG delivered and they are 3mm internal diameter not 2 1/2 as I state above (which I calculated from a wire sizing chart that gave the cross sectional area of various size wire).  Obviously there's a bit of slack allowed for an easy fit over the wire.



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 03:03 AM


I knew there were other sizes Bill.  I just didn't want someone to click and order without checking the size.

 

 

 

Yes sir, I assumed you knew...I was just clarifying more in case someone didn't think to scroll down on that page. :)



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 04:18 AM

sooooooo if I was to go out and buy a bag of these today from home depot to replicate these....

 

 

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what would be the ones you recommend?

 



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 03:17 AM

Probably 12 or 14 AWG but without actually having had any in my hands to measure I couldn't be absolutely sure.

I'd guess those stacks would be 2 1/2 inch diameter meaning you want 2 1/2mm inside diameter ferrules.

If you can get them from an actual store (rather than the interweb) then you have the luxury of being able to take a ruler with you to measure them before you buy them.



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 12:29 PM

 
Do they sell these local at places like lowes or home depot?

Edited by grt222, 20 December 2013 - 12:31 PM.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 12:43 PM

sooooooo if I was to go out and buy a bag of these today from home depot to replicate these....

 

 

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what would be the ones you recommend?

 

I dont think they are available at Home depot, they are commonly used in electronic computer line wiring applications.



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Posted 20 December 2013 - 05:14 PM

Check with Joe Cardoza , he is a member here ! He just sent me a text with pictures of some beauties that he now offers ! Reasonably priced too !

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 06:59 PM

Thanks Oldman!

 

Here are the Prototypes of my Velocity Stacks (2pcs.) I glass beaded the bottom stem so you can see the top flare pc. The top flare pieces will come in plain Aluminum or anodized in Red/Blue or Gold. They will be available some time next year! 

 

 

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 02:56 AM

Nice and tall.  That's the problem with using ferrules, they are a bit short.