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#41 Chuck Most

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 04:15 AM

I think it would be neat to see a Dodge L700 with a Perkins or an early Ford C with an inline Dagenham or Dorset diesel.
 
I have found a pdf of a Perkins shop manual that gives dimensional data and has a lot of diagrams / photographs.



http://www.rgknighta...files/6.354.pdf

Thanks for that link, Aaron! I can see that being pretty useful. :D



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 06:05 AM

Could we have a factory paint colour lists to match the engines please?



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 07:32 AM

Here you go.
 
Allis Chalmers - Plum Crazy Purple
 
Caterpillar
1145 - New Cat Yellow
1150 - New Cat Yellow
1160 - New Cat Yellow
1673 - New Cat Yellow
1674 - New Cat Yellow
1676 - New Cat Yellow
1693 - New Cat Yellow
3208 - New Cat Yellow
3306 - New Cat Yellow
3406 - New Cat Yellow
3408 - New Cat Yellow
3412 - New Cat Yellow
C5 - C19 - New Cat Yellow with Black valve covers
 
Edit:  I have now found out that Caterpillar Changed the color from the Old Caterpillar Yellow, also known as Hi-Way Yellow, to New Cat Yellow on their machines in June 1979 and that could be the case with the engines too.
So if that's correct the engines would be Cat Hi-Way Yellow from January 1932 until June 1979, after June 1979 New Cat Yellow...except for the cases when the truck manufacturers had their own colors as listed below.
The old Cat Hi-Way Yellow were a brighter shade yellow than the New Cat Yellow wich is more to the mustard shade.
 
 
Cummins
NHC250 - Cummins Beige
NTA370 - Cummins Beige
NTC350 - Cummins Beige
NTC400 - Cummins Beige
NTC475 - Cummins Beige
N14 - Black (cast aluminum valve covers are red and stamped sheet metal valve covers are black)
V-903 - Dark grey or Black
Signature 600/ISX CM570 - Red (may have chrome or black valve covers)
 
 
Detroit Diesel
Series 60 - DD Alpine Green or BlueGreen
6-71 - DD Alpiine Green
8V71 - DD Alpine Green
12V71 - DD Alpine Green or Silver (usually turbocharged models)
16V71 - DD Alpine Green
8V92 - DD Alpine Green or Silver (usually turbocharged models)
 
Chevrolet
1940s to late 1950s - Medium grey
Late 1950s to 1963 I-6 engines Chevrolet engine blue, V-8 Chevrolet engine red (orange)
 
 
Ford
Ford 331 Flathead truck engine - Dark Spruce Green
OHV 1954 to 1961 - Red
534SD - Ford Blue
 
 
GMC
GMC 1940s - Avacado
GMC late 1940s to early 1950s Dark Green
GMC 1950s Crimson Red 
GMC 1960s V-6 Alpine Green, V-8  Red
Turbine - Red
 
 
International 
V-800 - Metallic blue
Maxx Force - Dark Blue and Silver
 
 
Mack - Pre 1990 gold, Post 1990 grey, or blue / grey if equipped with an intercooler
ENDT675 
ENDT676
ENDT865
4cyl (Mack AC) - medium grey
Super tip turbine - red
The Maxidyne engine colour was gold, the Maxiydyne truck could easily be identified by the gold dog on the bonnet. 
The Thermodyne, Econodyne motors were all painted GREY, these had a chrome dog fitted.
If any other brand of motor was fitted, Cummins,Cat, GM-Detroit,  then it would have a chrome dog fitted as well.
 
 
Exceptions, some truck manufacturer's use their own colors instead of the engine builders color
 
AutoCar - White through 1968-69 then manufacturer color
 
Ford - Black until 1965, Ford Blue until 1982, Ford Corporate Grey
 
Diamond Reo - Red

International - Red
"International paid Cummins, Detroit and Cat about $25 per engine to have them all painted IH 2150 Red for many years. The practice ended in the '70's, as I remember, and we (International, my employer) pocketed the 25 bucks. Concerning the blue International V-800 in the Paystar, marketing decided that International's new big bore engines should be blue to distinguish them from the competition"
 
Peterbilt -  White through 1984 then engine manufacturer color (there are exceptions as white engines can be found in trucks after 1984 and manufactures colors in trucks before 1984)
Caterpillar was the last engine manufacturer to stop painting them white.
 
Kenworth - White through 1975 then engine manufacturer color (there are exceptions as white engines can be found in trucks after 1975 and manufacturers colors in trucks before 1975)

Edited by Force, 19 August 2014 - 05:31 AM.


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Posted 16 August 2014 - 07:48 AM

Håkan, that's a great list. Tack så mycket!



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 08:20 AM

Varsågod...(You're Welcome)  ;)
I have gathered this info from here and there and I think it should be fairly correct.


Edited by Force, 16 August 2014 - 08:26 AM.


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Posted 16 August 2014 - 10:15 AM

Well then I trust it!  Dose anyone have any idea what color Dodge painted the engines in their heavy trucks?  Were they OEM color?



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 06:50 PM

I'm not 100% sure but I think the large diesels were manufacturer color.


Edited by Force, 16 August 2014 - 06:51 PM.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 03:34 AM

That's kind of what I'm leaning toward.  I have a photo of a Dodge Bighorn with the hood tipped, and the engine "looks" white, but you really can't trust 1970s color photography sometimes.



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 04:39 AM

Only exception I see to the color list is the 1693 and prior (older) Cat engines should be "Old" Caterpillar yellow?........................................Mark



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 05:07 AM

I thought Old Caterpillar Yellow went out in the 1950s?



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 06:04 PM

That's what I've heard also and that why I wrote New Cat Yellow.



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 10:45 AM

Not completely sure when "Old" Cat yellow disappeared,but my Dad had a 1:1 1972 White-Freightliner C.O.E with a 1693 Cat in it,and it was positively the older color,i still have some of the old aerosol touch-up paint that he used to keep the engine looking good.............................................Mark



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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:17 PM

I have edited the list as I have found out more regarding the Cat Yellow, I don't want to give out false information and the list to be as correct as it can be.  ;)  
So if anyone finds more inaccuracys both in the color list and engine list let me know and I'll fix it.


Edited by Force, 19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 01:10 PM

Thanks Hakan thats made it a hole lot easyer B)



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Posted 19 August 2014 - 05:29 AM

That's kind of what I'm leaning toward.  I have a photo of a Dodge Bighorn with the hood tipped, and the engine "looks" white, but you really can't trust 1970s color photography sometimes.

Well if the engine was a Cummins NHC, NTA or NTC it should be beige close to sand color, and if the engine was a Detroit 8V-92T it was probably silver, these colors dirty and a dirty white looks fairly the same from some distance.

 

Thanks Hakan thats made it a hole lot easyer B)

You're welcome.