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#1 Jonathan

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 08:44 AM

Sorry, no pictures at the moment, but I suspect y'all could help me a little bit w/ advise. :)

 

I have long had in my stash of projects a nearly complete Tom Daniel California Street Vette that is missing the hood and the associated louvers that are on the hood.  I got this off of "that auction site" some time ago as part of a lot.  I recently acquired a hood, complete with the louvers and I thought I was ready to go to town on finally building this car.

 

I've got the hood and body clean, sanded, preparing for primer.   I've started working on the rest of the car, and this is where I've got a little problem.   The interior is glued to the frame in a rather unglamorous fashion.  I've tried to remove it - even going so far as to freeze the parts and hope to pry them apart that way.  No dice.  Just too much tube glue.  The suspension is rather warped, and parts are glued on (securely!) pretty crooked.   So, my question - what will provide a good chassis, engine, and interior to this car?  I know the "Corvette SS" was basically the same tool, but the only one of those that I have came in the same lot, and is in the same condition.  Besides, I'd like to restore it, too.   So, is there a readily available Corvette kit that can donate the innards and underparts to the TD Cali Street Vette and the "Corvette SS"?

 

Thanks much!



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 09:02 AM

The chassis from the Monogram '65 Corvette is the exact same chassis almost. That was what the Tom Daniels 'Vette chassis became. The differences are very minor. I can compare my '65 chassis to my SS chassis and let you know exactly what the differences are. I think the trans/driveshaft tunnel was where the tweaking was done. I built the TD Corvette a couple of years or so ago. But, I went with a different color on mine.

 

There are few differences between the two chassis'

 

1 The trans/driveshaft tunnel is gone from the '65 chassis 

2 The frame horns up front have a slight slope at the bottom. (probably for clearance on the '65) no effect for the TD kit.

3 The engine mounts are different. But placed in the same location. I would use the '65 engine and transmission. They're exactly the same anyway except for how they mount to the frame mounts

4 The '65 has a filler piece added right at the front of where the floor pans end on the TD kit that extend forward to where the frame goes straight. It looks much better in that area than the TD kit.

5 The '65 chassis has another section taken out just in front of the rear end for clearance for the step down just behind the front seats. You could fill it back in or leave it out.

 

You can save your interior by grinding away the bad chassis until you get to the floor pan of your interior. If you have to, you could leave the trans tunnel if it's glued too solid. It won't effect the interior to chassis fit since it's missing from the '65. If there's absolutely no way of saving your TD interior, it would be possible to make the '65 interior work with a lot of modifications.

 

P.S. the supensions appear to be exactly the same. 


Edited by plowboy, 29 January 2014 - 09:41 AM.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 09:08 AM

I think the Street Machine is also the same basic kit. I built the SS wagon years ago, and have the Street Machine which sure looks to be the same. This one is on ebay for $2.95

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item3a8acbea5d



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 09:12 AM

Think the interior from that kit would work? 



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 10:09 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, isn't the '68 Corvette actually 1/24 scale instead of the advertised 1/25? That or the '69 427 Coupe would be the kit you need Jonathan.


Edited by plowboy, 29 January 2014 - 10:16 AM.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 10:33 AM

The Street Machine, SS Wagon, and Street Vette are all 1/24. I would certainly expect that all Monogram/Revell 1/24 Vette kits from 1968 to 1982 (?) would be basically the same kit underneath.



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 09:28 AM

Is the 1965 "black rat" and the recent issue of the Penske Corvette the same as the 1965 Revell / Monogram kit you're talking about?



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 01:49 PM

Is the 1965 "black rat" and the recent issue of the Penske Corvette the same as the 1965 Revell / Monogram kit you're talking about?

 

Not sure Jonathan. I've never owned the Penske 'Vette. This thread has got me thinking of a Tom Daniels inspired '65 'Vette street machine. I wonder if he ever did any customization work on a '65 or third generation Corvette?



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 06:42 AM

Any Tom Daniel inspired 'Vette Street Machine would be cool, in my book!

 

Here's where I am so far.  I've been sanding away the tube glue smears under the rear louvers and under the chin.  I'm rebuilding the "t-bar" that will be under the roof louvers, although you won't really see that.

body1.jpg

 

When I acquired the TD Vette, it didn't have a hood.  I recently won a small auction on eBay that included several hoods, but the only one I was aiming for was this one:
hood1.jpg

 

And, I do have the louvers for it. 

 

My TD Vette Street machine is missing the nerf bars for both the front and back.  The original owner had tube glued a rather gaudy (but I'd liked it back then!) chin spoiler to the body.  So, I've been cleaning up the tube glue, and I decided to fill in the slots that are underneath the body where the nerf bars would be:
smoothednose1.jpg

 

smoothedtail1.jpg

 

As you may or may not be able to tell from the following couple of pictures, the interior and chassis are glued together with what I am convinced is several tubes of glue!  :rolleyes:

chassis1.jpg

 

chassis2.jpg

 

And that's where I'm a little stuck.  I think I'd just like to substitute the chassis and interior from another kit.  Perhaps the engine, too.  And, it'll need sidepipes!   I thought the innards from the '79 pacecar might work, but not so much.  At least now without much chopping and whacking. 

So...anybody think that the Monogram Corvette Street Machine (the UGLY one) might be a good donor?  I do have the '65 Penske, so I might could do something there, but I need an interior that would go along with the TD Corvette era.  Thoughts? 

 

Thanks!



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:15 AM

Tiny update.  First coat of primer on the body.  The chassis is back in the freezer, as I'm hoping I can pop the interior off of it and use that with another chassis.  I did score one of those hideous Monogram Corvette "Street Machines" ("...with Street Sweeper decals!") off of that auction site.  I'm hoping I can use parts from it to reconstruct the chassis, if necessary.  I do have a '66 Penske Corvette that seems to have the same basic chassis (I think it's a near-repop of the '65 Corvette PlowBoy mentions above).  I could go that route, although I hate to cannibalize it.  But, I may do that after all.

 

Anywhooo  - terrible cell phone pic follows:

 

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Edited by Jonathan, 05 February 2014 - 04:24 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:19 AM

I've got the Revell '68 Corvette roadster street machine that is a good chassis donor I would think...  Wheels roll too. I made sure of that when I built it... body is no count (see my glue bomb galore post in trading post and youll see why)