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A Cautionary Reminder about what is - and is not - an NNL


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#21 tim boyd

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:23 AM

Tim, thanks for opening up this topic once again. There are so many misconceptions out there. I get phone calls and emails from folks inquiring about (or complaining about!) the various shows that call themselves NNLs around the country. Some folks think that we're all aligned, or at worst, that we are a company that runs model shows. 

 

We at Tri-State Scale Model Car Club / NNL East take the concept seriously and do all we can to spread the word.  When John Slivoski passed and I became president of our club, my first thought was that we make sure that our show correctly portrayed what NNL stands for.  So we loaded up a van and took many of our members out to Toledo so that they could see the original show for themselves.  It was quite a trip!

 

At NNL East everything we do is done to further the cause.  Every thing we add or change goes through the funnel of "What would John do?" and "Is this in the spirit of NNL?"  We have some very philosophical meetings!  We want to be an asset to the hobby and help move it forward. Several years ago we stopped reporting our attendance and number of models on the tables because we didn't feel it was in the spirit of what we were trying to do. It wasn't about getting bigger, it was about making the show, and the NNL experience better every year.  In fact, growing the show beyond our numbers would detract from the intimacy we were striving to maintain.  So we focus on making the show better.  We noticed that our ratio of attendees to model exhibitors was lower than we'd like it. After all, part of NNL is sharing your work with our peers.  We saw that many good builders weren't bringing models with them!  So we now offer a cool NNL East logo premium only to those who register models, first hoping to get our ratios of displayers up, but also to give everyone something neat to take home! 

 

We established a Friday night event at the host hotel restaurant where there aren't any models at all. It's about the people and catching up with friends you see once a year.  Many people say this is as important as the show itself.

 

At this year's show, we will distribute NNL East name tags.  Historically many people have brought their own, but this year we will start handing them out, hoping it results in more people recognizing each other and creating more face to face friendships among guys who may know each other on-line.  We also have redesigned the placard (we call it the parking space) that is displayed with each model. This year onward it will not only display the builder's name, but their home town and an optional space for their cell phone number so folks who want to meet them during the show can ring them up.  Nothing bothers me more than after the show hearing, "I was hoping to meet Joe X but couldn't find him."  so we've addressed this as best we can. 

 

The whole idea of NNL is meeting your peers and sharing ideas and the fellowship of the hobby, without the distraction of competing for awards.  It's a laid back atmosphere where everyone wins.  As we age, many modelers don't have a local club, but we all are in touch electronically via message boards and emails. We know many people we haven't met face to face, but consider  good friends.  The NNLs should be that place where we meet face to face annually to share everything good about the hobby!

Tom...this description so wonderfully captures what I think we've all been striving to achieve with the NNL idea.  Congrats to you and your team.

 

It's been ever so many years ago that we got that inquiry from John about doing an NNL East.  I remember some discussion of the request, but I think everyone knew we couldn't say no, and it certainly sounded like he was completely tuned into what we were all about.  The legacy of NNL East since then, and the spirit shown in your description, suggest you guys got it, and continue to get it, every year you do your show.  And ONE of these years, I plan to get there and experience it first hand.  

 

Best regards and thanks for all you and your NNL East team do...>TIM



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:26 AM

Seriously! 35 years! Holy Merc, Batman!

 

For those that don't know, Mr. Andy Martin (aka Modelmartin) was amongst those six lonely Nameless National Luminaries who showed up at Tom Woodruff's garage for that first-ever NNL event in the summer of 1980.  I'll never forget Andy's totally awesome models that he brought with him, nor his enthusiasm for our hobby and get-together!  The atmosphere there was totally charged, and Andy certainly did his bit to contribute to that result!   

 

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 07:11 AM

 

Tim, Tom,

 

Please help me out here, if you wouldn't mind.  I once knew the names of all six of the Nameless ones.  Tom Woodruff, Tim Boyd, Andy Martin, Chuck Hellpie;  but who were the others?

 

 

Tim,

 

Thanks for your comments on the Lumina.  I had great fun with that, but I have to say Mr. Gustavson didn't seem quite as amused when he saw it!   -_- 



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 08:12 AM

 

Tim, Tom,

 

Please help me out here, if you wouldn't mind.  I once knew the names of all six of the Nameless ones.  Tom Woodruff, Tim Boyd, Andy Martin, Chuck Hellpie;  but who were the others?

 

 

Tim,

 

Thanks for your comments on the Lumina.  I had great fun with that, but I have to say Mr. Gustavson didn't seem quite as amused when he saw it!   -_- 

Danno...the other two were...

 

 - Gary Dale, MPC National Customizing contestant (IIRC, he won third nationwide in 1977) and won Best of Show a number of times at MPC Regional events, and brother of David Dale who we all know is a very active builder these days and not so well known, an MPC Contest winner back then as well.  

 

- Bob Bost, MPC Contestant and winner, representing himself as well as Al Cozby, who also won his share of MPC Contests back then.  

 

Best....TB


Edited by tim boyd, 01 February 2014 - 08:13 AM.


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 08:40 AM

Thanks, Tim!



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 12:35 AM

thanks for the explanation



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 02:18 AM

 

Tim, Tom,

 

Please help me out here, if you wouldn't mind.  I once knew the names of all six of the Nameless ones.  Tom Woodruff, Tim Boyd, Andy Martin, Chuck Hellpie;  but who were the others?

 

 

Tim,

 

Thanks for your comments on the Lumina.  I had great fun with that, but I have to say Mr. Gustavson didn't seem quite as amused when he saw it!   -_- 

 

Danno...the other two were...

 

 - Gary Dale, MPC National Customizing contestant (IIRC, he won third nationwide in 1977) and won Best of Show a number of times at MPC Regional events, and brother of David Dale who we all know is a very active builder these days and not so well known, an MPC Contest winner back then as well.  

 

- Bob Bost, MPC Contestant and winner, representing himself as well as Al Cozby, who also won his share of MPC Contests back then.  

 

Best....TB

They are no longer NAMELESS!  Seriously though, I had to look up the definition of  Luminaries.  These are the best definitions I could find that would apply. 

 

lu·mi·nary

 noun \ˈlü-mə-ˌner-ē\

: a very famous or successful person

:  a person of prominence or brilliant achievement

 

Thanks for starting this thread, interesting subject.



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 05:50 AM

 

Seriously though, I had to look up the definition of  Luminaries.  These are the best definitions I could find that would apply. 

 

lu·mi·nary

 noun \ˈlü-mə-ˌner-ē\

: a very famous or successful person

:  a person of prominence or brilliant achievement

 

 

Oh dear....that is overstating it by about 2000%.  We were just model car builders who loved our hobby and were lucky enough to have won multiple awards at the MPC Contest series from 1969-79.  Very famous?  Not really.  Brilliant Achievement?  No Way!  

 

Then, I remembered.  It was Mark that picked the word "Luminaries" to describe us, not ourselves!  (Smile).  (For those not close to this subject, there has always been ongoing, good -natured, back and forth two-way ribbing between the NNL organizers and Mark in his role as Chair of the GSL.  It's just part of our shared  heritage!)  

 

TB 



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 07:38 AM

maybe fill in the rest of the story about the PuttyThrower's National contest that nobody showed up to...lol



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 01:46 AM

Hi guys,

After reading about and seeing how the NNL concept took off in the U.S and going to a heap of judged shows here in Australia where people left disheartened with the results and the judging systems I started the NSW NNL Titles.
Originally I committed to running the show for 3 years to see if it'd work and if people would enjoy the format, in April this year we will be running our 12th show so it obviously worked.

While our show has categories and trophies and awards for each one we don't have judges picking the winners. Our show is supposed to be a one day event but over the years it's developed into a whole lot more than that. We now get people showing up on the Friday and Saturday and staying over for the event on Sunday and quite a few stay for the Monday and Tuesday. Because of the way our show has grown we usually have a pizza night at my house on the Friday, take early entries on Saturday followed by everyone going out for tea together, than the show on Sunday after which we usually all go out for tea again.

The social atmosphere and laid back attitude has made our show what it is the early arriving entrants help us set up the venue and pack it up, they're all regulars to the event and have become like a second family to us. They've watched our kids grow and we've shared over a decade of memories and friendship with them.

The way our event is "judged" is every entrant gets a voting slip and chooses the model they like the best in each category, the votes are tallied and the one with the most is awarded "most popular" in its category, not the best or first. This takes away all the arguing and hassles associated with a proper judged event, in all the years running it we've never had a compliant and the show keeps getting bigger and better.

Whether our show is a true NNL because we hand out awards, ribbons and free kits I don't know but the friendships, social side and good time had by all tells me it certainly is in the spirit of the original NNL concept. A no politics/ego's show where the main priority is having fun and enjoying our hobby.

Cheers Rob

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 03:08 PM

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The NNL East name tags came in yesterday and they look pretty good.  We're hoping everyone will want to wear 'em.  And this should help folks find one another at the show.  I hate it when people say "I was looking for Jiminy all day and never got to meet him."   That means the show wasn't all it could have been for those two!  So we needed to fix that.


Edited by Tom Geiger, 09 February 2014 - 03:09 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:43 AM

Tom - Great explanation of the NNL ideal for those who have not yet been able to attend. Name tags? You with your fluorescent shirts and me in my red shirt,we are easy to find but the rest, you're right. I always get an email after the show saying, 'I saw your models but not you.' The sign-in sheet in the host hotel has a similar function as you can see who has signed in and then page them...usually in the restaurant eating and imbibing :)

 

Another tradition has started on Friday evening in the hotel lobby with a small demo session going on, either showing a modeling technique or discussing a new model kit. One year I did a small Bare-Metal demo for about a dozen people; one year it was a new truck; last year a new trailer; this year, well, we're waiting, but there will be a gathering in the lobby. 2 years ago I drove down on Thursday and had dinner with some east coast Canadians. I think there will be more on Thursday this year and we enjoy spending time visiting. You can't get enough of the camaraderie at an NNL.

 

See you in 6 weeks :) 



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Posted 21 March 2014 - 02:39 PM

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Thanks Howard.... Since you liked the new name tags...  we've added another thing that will connect people together.  Here's our new "Parking Space" placard for models on the show tables.  This year we've added a few things. Aside from your name, you can add your city and state or province.  There's a spot for your club affiliation, and the biggie, a spot for your cell phone so folks can find you during the show!    The real ones will be a little larger, this is just a sample printed from a PDF and my printer wasn't honoring the crop marks. They will also be numbered.

 

Yea, we try to raise the bar a little bit each year!


Edited by Tom Geiger, 21 March 2014 - 02:41 PM.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 03:44 PM

That's cool about the cell phone thing….at least for you guys.  For most of us from north of the border our lovely cellphone service providers charge outrageous roaming fees so much so that we usually are scrambling to shut our phones off before we cross.



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Posted 23 March 2014 - 10:39 AM

Wow!

and all this time I thunk "Luminaries" were those tiny, little candle thingies... along the sidewalks around Christmas!