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#21 Craig Irwin

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:12 PM

Would "Model T" be a trademark or copyright? Trademarks last as long as the company keeps registering it - so forever if needed. So, did Ford keep registering "Model T"?

Notice Ford is obscured on the box art too - it doesn't actually say "Ford".

Try making anything "Hudson Teraplane" and see how fast someone from Chrysler contacts you.



#22 Harry P.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:37 PM

Hah! You're going to build them in 1/24?

 

Nope. Too small for me. Besides, I already have my Lindberg T built. I was talking in the generic sense, as in nice to see another source of model car kits.



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:55 PM

Try making anything "Hudson Teraplane" and see how fast someone from Chrysler contacts you.

 

Same thing for FoMoCo.  They'll be watching how the kit is represented. 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 04:43 AM

Reminds me of some aftermarket Model T hubcaps from several years ago.The script on the cap was done in the same style as the original part but instead of "Ford" it said "Fool".



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 05:56 AM

That's funny, Tony.  I like that kind of spirit.



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:52 PM

I can hardly wait for these. I already have the Opel.


Edited by lordairgtar, 26 February 2014 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2014 - 06:28 AM

Reminds me of some aftermarket Model T hubcaps from several years ago.The script on the cap was done in the same style as the original part but instead of "Ford" it said "Fool".

Yeah, those "FOOL" aftermarket hubcaps for Model T's and Model A's back in the 1960's were aggravating.  Those happened simply because Ford Motor Company back in the 50's and early 60's simply refused to authorize or even license anything in a reproduction part that carried the Ford script.  

 

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 06:29 AM

As for the ICM kits, I wonder what all the unrest/upheaval in Ukraine (where ICM is located) will have on their production of model kits?

 

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 10:41 AM

Art I hoe they come through the unrest unscathed. They also produce some fine 1/35th scale subjects.

 

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 12:14 PM

ICM has really improved their product line in all scales in a very short time. I just purchased the 1/24th Mercedes G4 and I'm very very impressed.

 

Ukrainians are a resilient people after being the main battleground of Europe for a long period of WW2. I'm pretty sure a civil uprising against an unpopular leadership won't keep them down for long.

Hopefully everyone keeps safe.

 

 



 

 


Edited by doggie427, 02 March 2014 - 12:16 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2014 - 01:36 PM

If the Model T is anything close to the Cabriolet I will have to have one (or two --- or----)!!!

 

I have the Cabriolet and it is just a very fine kit.

 

Hint on the Cabriolet --- if you want to get one get the up-top version as it has the parts for the boot (open top build) in the kit as well so you get the best of both !!!

 

Very nice kit --- pricey but worth it  --- kind of in the class of the Galaxie products...



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Posted 02 March 2014 - 02:26 PM

I recently read that Tesla was originally considering calling their car the Model T. T in that case being for Tesla and Ford jumped all over them. So they called it the Model S.



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Posted 02 March 2014 - 03:18 PM

Interesting, I would be in for a couple of these.



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:37 PM

Bill, if the Model T kits are near Galaxy quality, I'm ok with paying more . Besides, I do a LOT of period diorama work. These early Ford cars are a welcome sight for people like myself who are constantly on the look out for anything that will fit into the early 20th century ..............



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 05:49 PM

I cannot wait! I have all sorts of things I can do with these! The hubcaps are so small on these it would be hard to imagine a legible logo on them. We;lll see. It does seem a bit odd that the touring would be green for the box art. I would have thought bluse like most of them were from the factory. Hmmmm.....


Edited by Eric Macleod, 03 March 2014 - 05:51 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 06:15 PM

A 1910 Touring is what I learned to drive a model T in, you know I'll have to have one of those.



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:32 AM

I hope ICM do realise that releasing their 1/35 Packard V12 in 1/24 would make them seriously rich.



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:45 AM

I cannot wait! I have all sorts of things I can do with these! The hubcaps are so small on these it would be hard to imagine a legible logo on them. We;lll see. It does seem a bit odd that the touring would be green for the box art. I would have thought bluse like most of them were from the factory. Hmmmm.....

Depends on what car they used for their "model".  However, in the first years of production from 1908 to 1913, the Model T was not available in black but rather only grey, green, blue, and red. Green was available for the touring cars, town cars, coupes, and Landaulets. Grey was only available for the town cars, and red only for the touring cars. By 1912, all cars were being painted midnight blue with black fenders. It was only in 1914 that the "any color so long as it is black" policy was finally implemented. It is often stated that Ford suggested the use of black from 1914 to 1926 due to the cheap cost and durability of black paint. During the lifetime production of the Model T, over 30 different types of black paint were used on various parts of the car.These were formulated to satisfy the different means of applying the paint to the various parts, and had distinct drying times, depending on the part, paint, and method of drying.

    Model Ts were also produced 'round the world in Buenos Aires, Argentina; Geelong, Australia; Sao Bernardo de Campo, Brazil; Toronto; Walkerville, Ontario; Copenhagen, Denmark; Manchester, England; Berlin, Germany; Cork Ireland; Cadiz, Spain. those places may have added or deleted a color choice as well.


Edited by lordairgtar, 09 March 2014 - 04:43 AM.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 09:10 AM

Clearly you know a bit about early Fords. They are indeed very confusing. I struggled with color choices when I restored the first two of mine (the 1:1 cars) I noticed that the "1912" ICM is using for box art does not look a lot like most '12's I have seen. It looks more like a '13 or perhaps a '14 to me.

 

If the ICM Gods smile on us and this series comes to fruition, be cautious about reference sources. The Collins and Clymer books are pretty well illustrated but unfortunately full of incorrect and misleading information. Conversely. the Lindsay and McCaulley books are excellent, with the latter mostly using original cars as references.

 

Interestingly, I was at the last Hershey meet while Bruce McCaulley was still alive and we got talking about Model T colors. He happened upon an original stash of paint from 1926-27. There was phoenix brown, gunmetal blue, straw (cream), Windsor maroon, and channel green. Mixed up thoroughly, thinned and applied to primed metal every single color was now....black! Original Ford paint apparently does not have a good shelf life!

 

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 09:25 AM

Clearly you know a bit about early Fords. They are indeed very confusing. I struggled with color choices when I restored the first two of mine (the 1:1 cars) I noticed that the "1912" ICM is using for box art does not look a lot like most '12's I have seen. It looks more like a '13 or perhaps a '14 to me.

 

If the ICM Gods smile on us and this series comes to fruition, be cautious about reference sources. The Collins and Clymer books are pretty well illustrated but unfortunately full of incorrect and misleading information. Conversely. the Lindsay and McCaulley books are excellent, with the latter mostly using original cars as references.

 

Interestingly, I was at the last Hershey meet while Bruce McCaulley was still alive and we got talking about Model T colors. He happened upon an original stash of paint from 1926-27. There was phoenix brown, gunmetal blue, straw (cream), Windsor maroon, and channel green. Mixed up thoroughly, thinned and applied to primed metal every single color was now....black! Original Ford paint apparently does not have a good shelf life!

 

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Wow, I should say not. Nitrocelluose can be somewhat unstable, but for it to actually change color? :blink:

 

Isn't Channel Green the color that's almost, if not totally impossible to get correct today?

 

I remember reading someplace that one of the late T colors cannot be replicated accurately at any cost or with any paint system.

 

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