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#1 Cien1986

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 09:43 PM

Hi all MCM friends

 

I want to share my new project which is Monogram 1/12 Mercedes 300SL Gullwing

 

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the box can tell this is real old plastic model kit...

i buy this kit from ebay and unfortunately this kit don't come with instruction manual when it shipped... 

but i manage to get the instruction manual from scalemotorcars friends DominiqueBeerts many thanks for the help...

 

what i find when iam unboxing this kit is... the part organization is real mess... some part comes pre-cut from spruce it makes real difficult to identify the product... the molding is rough too.... but its usual problem with old injection kit ...

 

then i try to snap fit the body, under panel, door, trunk and hood... and what surprise me... it not fit well... the door is like bending so there is a large gap between part.... the same condition apply to hood and other panel too..... 

 

so i preheat it with a candle and bend it slowly to achieve the shape that will fit... but on some place its not bendable..

the conclusion is this nightmare in car modelling...

 

this is the picture of the kit when i try to snap fit it

 

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i use transparent tape to hold it in position and try to press it for minimal the gap

 

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this is the scale compare to my other model...

 

after snap fit the kit i start working on trimming the front fender and lowererd the upper body part to make the kit fit properly, and then sanding the sink mark and mold line.....

 

here is some progress on sanding

 

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 09:52 PM

Very cool project, im going to follow this one.



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Posted 29 April 2014 - 01:48 AM

I'll be following this as well!

 

I want one of these kits (being a large scale builder of course I do!) ;)



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Posted 29 April 2014 - 04:31 AM

Oh, boy!  I've toyed with the idea of tackling one of these.  Now I can just watch your build to see how it goes.



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Posted 29 April 2014 - 04:49 AM

Looks like you're making excellent progress. The kit is loaded with sink marks, mold lines and body ripples, and I think you're doing quite well.



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Posted 01 May 2014 - 11:20 AM

I just picked up one at the Desert scale classic in April....Mine also has no instruction sheet with it either...So I will be watching this thread to see how yours comes out.  I think mine is a older release...not that that will make the fit any better..

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 02:02 AM

Super Super Super.....

 

Keep it going...Like!!!



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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:52 AM



I just picked up one at the Desert scale classic in April....Mine also has no instruction sheet with it either...So I will be watching this thread to see how yours comes out.  I think mine is a older release...not that that will make the fit any better..

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FYI, the kit was originally issued by Renwal. The instructions that Henry is referring to can be found here...

 

http://www.scalemoto...ery.php?cat=935

 

As you look at the instructions, you'll find one large error in the kit; they call for the water tank to be mounted to the radiator. This is wrong - it should be mounted just in front of the firewall on the passenger side. In the 1:1, it's attached to a portion of the spaceframe inside the right fender; since the kit doesn't replicate the spaceframe, other means will have to be improvised.

 

Here's a closer look.

 

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Edited by sjordan2, 02 May 2014 - 05:44 AM.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 09:09 AM

 

FYI, the kit was originally issued by Renwal. The instructions that Henry is referring to can be found here...

 

http://www.scalemoto...ery.php?cat=935

 

As you look at the instructions, you'll find one large error in the kit; they call for the water tank to be mounted to the radiator. This is wrong - it should be mounted just in front of the firewall on the passenger side. In the 1:1, it's attached to a portion of the spaceframe inside the right fender; since the kit doesn't replicate the spaceframe, other means will have to be improvised.

 

Here's a closer look.

 

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Thanks for the info!



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Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:11 AM

Among the other errors and omissions, you'll notice that the shift lever is totally weird, The kit lever is snaky and should be totally straight in that position. I think the kit makers misunderstood that the first 50 Gullwings had a "gooseneck" shift lever mounted over the transmission under the dash, and coming back into the cockpit, but everything after that had a straight vertical shift lever on the tunnel.

 

I would add that there is no particularly good Gullwing kit available. The best are in 1/16. The Minicraft version is the only one with a spaceframe, and the Italeri version has a more detailed engine and chrome parts, though the body shape needs work because the fenders are too bulbous and the doors don't fit well. It would be good to have both kits available as reference for the 1/12 build.


Edited by sjordan2, 02 May 2014 - 11:28 AM.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 06:03 AM

FYI, the kit was originally issued by Renwal. The instructions that Henry is referring to can be found here...
 
http://www.scalemoto...ery.php?cat=935
 
As you look at the instructions, you'll find one large error in the kit; they call for the water tank to be mounted to the radiator. This is wrong - it should be mounted just in front of the firewall on the passenger side. In the 1:1, it's attached to a portion of the spaceframe inside the right fender; since the kit doesn't replicate the spaceframe, other means will have to be improvised.
 
Here's a closer look.
 
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Many thanks for the info.. I will take a closer look about that

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 06:48 AM

Here is some preview of the kit before i sand it

 

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you can see the door fit is teriible..

this is the fender

 

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 06:52 AM

here is some progress that i made to the roof

try to fit and sand it..

 

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Edited by Cien1986, 03 May 2014 - 06:52 AM.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 06:56 AM

start to prime the engine and add putty to flatten the sink mark

 

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i usually light sand the part then prime it

to have a clear view to the defect area...



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 08:05 AM

When the engine is mounted, it tilts over to the left. The fuel injection system is virtually invisible at that point, and I wouldn't bother with it - especially adding the injector lines -  (except to feel satisfied with knowing it's there). With the belly pan in place, especially since it's molded on, you can't even see it from the underside.



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:51 PM

When the engine is mounted, it tilts over to the left. The fuel injection system is virtually invisible at that point, and I wouldn't bother with it - especially adding the injector lines -  (except to feel satisfied with knowing it's there). With the belly pan in place, especially since it's molded on, you can't even see it from the underside.


Yeah i just realize it too the engine tilt abit.. haha...
at first i want to add injector line to it using thin brass line... but it seems it will stuck with steering shaft,
because there is a cutting curve at the left side of the engine block near the fuel line for the shaft to pass through
so i change my mind... its invincible no one can see it after assembly.,

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 03:18 AM

Sanding is looking great!

 

I'll drop these in here for some more "inspiration"  :D  This is how I want to do one.

 

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 06:42 AM

Sometimes knowing too much about a life-long dream car can be disappointing. 

 

 

 

By the way, that has absolutely nothing to do with your project, Henry. 



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Posted 04 May 2014 - 10:05 AM

Sometimes knowing too much about a life-long dream car can be disappointing. 

 

 

 

By the way, that has absolutely nothing to do with your project, Henry. 

 

I assume you're talking about me. I have made three small suggestions about improving major kit errors, all easy to fix. Do you have this kit? Can you tell me what suggestions you find objectionable or over the top? 


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 10:39 AM

Anyway, notwithstanding some carping, this tutorial on fixing the notorious body seam on the 1/8 XK-E may be helpful in fixing the fender seam on the Gullwing:

 

http://www.modelcars...showtopic=64075