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#21 Greg Myers

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:34 AM

so lets get nic-pickie . you feel better now ?

 

I said the same "Grouping" not that they were the same.

 If your going to correct someone at least be right

 

Explain "grouping" .



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:43 AM

 

Explain "grouping" .

group·ing [groo-ping] Show IPA
noun
1.
an act or process of placing in groups.
2.
a set or arrangement of persons or things in a group.
Origin:
1740–50;  See group, -ing1 , -ing2
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group [groop] Show IPA

noun

1.
any collection or assemblage of persons or things; cluster; aggregation: a group of protesters; a remarkable group of paintings.
2.
a number of persons or things ranged or considered together as being related in some way.
 
As in "a group of similar body styling"
 
While I am at it , I will add in my opinion the Model A other than the roof line look very similar

I also noted that many Model A hot rods use the model b style radiator housing 

I did not say they were the same put feel free to post pictures and point out the differences


Edited by Jon Haigwood, 07 July 2014 - 06:46 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:50 AM

So essentially, this is your own personal grouping i.e. group-ing, groo-ping.  :huh:



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:56 AM

So essentially, this is your own personal grouping i.e. group-ing, groo-ping.  :huh:

Yes "A group of similar styled Ford autos in the late 20's and early 30's"

 

I call it the "Early Ford Hot Rod Group"


Edited by Jon Haigwood, 07 July 2014 - 06:57 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:03 AM

This thread is about Model "A" Ford kits. A group that falls within these years 1928-1931, not to be confused with Fords that came after this.

The Model "B" ( four cylinder version of the model 18, by the way a term not used by Ford) built only one year 1932.

The model "C" ( another term not used by Ford) being of the year 1933.

Sorry no model "D"  ;)



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:43 AM

This thread is about Model "A" Ford kits. A group that falls within these years 1928-1931, not to be confused with Fords that came after this.

The Model "B" ( four cylinder version of the model 18, by the way a term not used by Ford) built only one year 1932.

The model "C" ( another term not used by Ford) being of the year 1933.

Sorry no model "D"  ;)

"Model B" was used by Ford, but not really advertised that much--Ford's advertising for 1932 focused on the Model 18, but even that was referred to in most ad copy as the New Ford V8. Apparently the reason for this was a concern that some potential buyers would be afraid of "gambling" on the "newfangled" V8 engine, so the B was referred to, in some advertising, as "The Improved Model A" (which in many ways, it was).   "B" was used, however, throughout 1932 as the prefix to body style numbers (witness "B-400", which was the body style number for the Convertible Sedan).  Model B was used for 4-cylinder pickup trucks (it was a few months before V8 engine production reached a level which allowed Ford to begin installing them in trucks and commercial vehicles.  Even then, all Ford heavy-duty trucks (1- to 1-1/2 ton) were referred to as Model BB trucks not only in Ford literature but also on the street, 1932-34 (as a follow-on progression of Model TT and Model AA trucks).

 

You are correct that officially there was never was a Ford Model C, that coming from a curious casting code of a raised letter C on the engine block of 4-cylinder engines produced in 1933-34 (Ford dropped the Model B 4-cylinder engine in midyear 1934, due to very low sales)

 

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:47 AM

 

 

From what I just read the Model B was the 4 cylinder version and the Model 18 (Ford V8-8)  was the V8 version of the Model B

As far as I am concerned it is in the same grouping as the Model A . The Model 18 had a larger more powerful engine and longer wheelbase

Jon, there is no difference in wheelbase (or for that matter in the chassis whatsoever) between the 4-cylinder and V8 versions of the 1932 Ford.  All US-produced Ford passenger cars for 1932 rode on the same identical 106" wheelbase chassis.

 

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:18 AM

Jon, there is no difference in wheelbase (or for that matter in the chassis whatsoever) between the 4-cylinder and V8 versions of the 1932 Ford.  All US-produced Ford passenger cars for 1932 rode on the same identical 106" wheelbase chassis.

 

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I was referencing to the Model A and the Model 18 engine size and wheel base. The A having a 201ci 40hp and a wheelbase of 103" and the Model 18 having a 221 65hp and a 106" wheelbase. Sorry if it was confusing



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:20 AM

 

 

From what I just read the Model B was the 4 cylinder version and the Model 18 (Ford V8-8)  was the V8 version of the Model B

As far as I am concerned it is in the same grouping as the Model A . The Model 18 had a larger more powerful engine and longer wheelbase

 

 

You are correct as to the nomenclature for the V8 version of the 1932 Ford . . . I committed a dastardly typographic error.  It was, indeed the Model 18 and I knew that but typed wrong.  My apologies.

 

But the thread is "Model A" which does not include Model Bs or Model 18s, any more than the Mustangs are Model As by virtue of being in the "all Fords" 'set' or 'grouping.'

 

B)


Edited by Danno, 07 July 2014 - 08:22 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:25 AM

Interesting perspective. My first car was a Model A. LH11_r108_01.jpg Everywhere I went " Nice model T".To a lot of people, especially those unversed in car makes and years, they "Group" similar (not same) cars all in one broad "Group". And we ain't pickin' "Nits" here, we're talking about Model A Fords.


Edited by Greg Myers, 07 July 2014 - 08:27 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:30 AM

 

 

You are correct as to the nomenclature for the V8 version of the 1932 Ford . . . I committed a dastardly typographic error.  It was, indeed the Model 18 and I knew that but typed wrong.  My apologies.

 

But the thread is "Model A" which does not include Model Bs or Model 18s, any more than the Mustangs are Model As by virtue of being in the "all Fords" 'set' or 'grouping.'

 

B)

And I thought I acknowledged that in my edit of my first post <_<



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:32 AM

Interesting perspective. My first car was a Model A. LH11_r108_01.jpg Everywhere I went " Nice model T".To a lot of people, especially those unversed in car makes and years, they "Group" similar (not same) cars all in one broad "Group". And we ain't pickin' "Nits" here, we're talking about Model A Fords.

again: And I thought I acknowledged that in my edit of my first post <_< :rolleyes:



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:36 AM

lots of smoke and mirrors in between,  :blink:  200.5 Cubic Inches. ^_^



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:38 AM

This ones a little gem ('28-'29) diecast kit p189486b.jpg  Ooops. Got a Deuce nose. B) 364133.jpg


Edited by Greg Myers, 07 July 2014 - 08:41 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:40 AM

And I thought I acknowledged that in my edit of my first post <_<

 

 

I wasn't sure who was picking on who for what.  Just clarifying . . .

 

Time to smile . . .   :)



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:40 AM

This ones a little gem ('28-'29) diecast kit p189486b.jpg  364133.jpg

 

 

so is that a Model B/Model 18 Grill shell



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:42 AM

 

 

so is that a Model B/Model 18 Grill shell

 

 

 

Yep.  VERY common modification.  The '32 grille/radiator shell (only one year, by the way . . .  the '33 radiator shell was much different again) is generally considered to be better looking than the 28-28 or 30-31 shells.

 

 

Ooops.  I forgot to smile.   :)


Edited by Danno, 07 July 2014 - 08:43 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:44 AM

Here's one for ya Jon, an "A V-8" IMG_5903.jpgprobable a "Gow Job" too.  :lol:


Edited by Greg Myers, 07 July 2014 - 08:45 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:48 AM

Not sure if this is a Mustang,an  A, or a V8 with a B grill on a deuce frame?

 

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:49 AM

Here's two more A's I didn't see on here or at least different box art.   Nice thread Greg.IMG_6678_zps69bf2c1c.jpgIMG_6680_zps9e2dc719.jpg