well, now that you ask....old photos of some mods in that late 60s to mid 70s era seem to have huge slicks. several of the pics I have recently seen have the tire way out from the body. seems different cars and such ran different setups, but I am no expert. the 64 ford mod I am doing now looks better once the tires are sanded down some, with the sharp side edges rounded out a bit as well. I also trimmed the axle stubs down about 40 percent to bring them in some. that really helps, and looks ok to my eye. best, a.c.
Posted 11 July 2014 - 01:04 PM
i'll forgive you for that, mark,...but don't make that kind of error again....lol....a.c.
Posted 11 July 2014 - 04:03 PM
I am new to this forum. Are we allowed to mention manufacturers, or aftermarket people ? If so, I have info about PPP or someone else might like to go ahead and mention them.
Posted 15 July 2014 - 03:08 PM
Posted 16 July 2014 - 11:57 AM
One thing I've wondered about this series: Were those huge wide slicks really common for the Modified Stocker class in the early '70s, or did AMT just use what they had available?
Anyone have more info on the PPP wheels/tires John mentioned?
Depended on the track and the local rules. Around here they allowed a big slick on the right front only back in the day. 1/4 mile bullring at Thunder Road, owned and operated by none other than Ken Squier.
Posted 22 July 2014 - 12:20 PM
The '65 Chevelle Modified kit is close to what I remember at a track in Norwood, MA back in 1971. It was a 1/4 mile track.
Follow this link where you will see these cars.
This has a great track history, pictures of cars through out all the years. I went there last time in 1971
Edited by Bob Ellis, 22 July 2014 - 12:28 PM.
Posted 22 July 2014 - 02:34 PM
Thanks for the link, Bob - lots of inspiration there. The Volkswagen Mini Stocks were new to me - might be something fun to do with that IMC VW I've had sitting around forever.
Posted 23 July 2014 - 05:11 AM
Chris, it's funny you mention the VWs.
I remember them racing at the Norwood 1/4 mile track. They were incredibly loud with a buzzing sound. Like bees at 150 decibels. Not super fast, but as a group, they were competitive.
Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:50 AM
John, I believe links/information is always welcome.
Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:29 AM
The PPP wheels are really nice. They are molded between 1/24-1/25 scale so they work well for both scales. They come with decals for the call out either Goodyear/Firestone. I haven't tried their newer dirt, square treaded tires which would probably go nice with the any of the stocker kits. I think they may come with hoosier decals but not sure. Most of the major after market model suppliers have them listed as in stock. They are good stuff.
Posted 24 July 2014 - 04:18 AM
Yes, you can google Plastic Performance Products, and get lots of information.
The actual business is owned by David Hawkins and he is a pleasure to deal with. He is in Asheville, North Carolina, and the number is 828 670 1450.
The tire decals that I have gotten from him are Firestone. He tells me that any of his tires will fit any of his wheels. I have not tried the dirt tires yet.
Posted 24 July 2014 - 04:33 AM
Plastic Performance Products = beautiful stuff. Gorgeously molded wheels and tires. Intricate detail.
For dirt tires, you can get square tread or angle cut, and I believe McCrearys, Hoosiers, Good Years and American Racer markings.
Buy early, buy often!
Posted 25 December 2014 - 03:32 PM
The original serie of the Modified Stockers by AMT hit the stores for the first time in 1971.
This is the very year I saw them arrived on the market, I remember very well.
Another fact is that I found also this information somewhere in a book. I believe it was in a book titled Stock Car Model Kit encyclopedia & Price Guide by Bill Coulter, or it was somewhere else, on internet maybe.
I came back from a foster home on August 15th, 1970 and these kits were not on the market yet. They arrived the following year and I remember exactly where I saw them for the first time and they were just arrived. Not long after, these kits started to pop out all around in stores and Hobby shops.
in 1968, when Dad started to bring the kids to the short tracks to see the races, I was so fascinated by these race cars that I started to build Stock Car scale models with my built street car kits that I dismanteled and rebuilded into short trackers, radiussing the wheel openings and other jobs, modifying them into what looked as close as possible as Stock Car racers, and at this time there were only kits that looked alike stock cars on the market, but they were generic and looked more like some kind of mix of road racers, rally cars or street cars with decals of numbers, sport stripes and automotive brand name decals supplied in the kits. Nice box arts but nothing that really looked like real stock cars, or at least looking like Late Model Sportsman or Modified classes of the time.
I was building roll cages with the sprues of the kits back then, till the Modified Stockers serie arrived on the market. I was so happy of this. As a teenage of 15 years old,I was dreaming of these kits but coudn't afford buying all of the different ones in the series. Some desapeared before I could buy them, like the '69 Falcon and the '65 Oldsmobiles that me and my young brothers never had. In these days, and some others from other series released in the following years (Modified with the Tobias chassis, the MPC serie (Rat Trap Vega, Pinto Rough Rider and so on), the USAC short trackers ('70 Monte-Carlo, '70 Chevelle, '72 Cuda and others) and also the Nascar serie from MPC (Coo Coo Marlin and Jim Hurtibise Chevelles, Petty, Buddy Baker and so on). These ones were produced from the early to the mid seventies.
MPC and Jo-Han had started to produce some annual models with some generic Nascar versions, and Jo-Han produced 2 Petty cars, not so accurate but not too bad kits., a little too close to street cars with more or less accurate rollcages but nice graphics . Most of them were not really short trackers and were not really superspeedway racers neighter. Just fake Stock Cars or some kind of Street Stock stock cars maybe. All these kits had their flaws.
The Nascar kits of the 80s and up were more accurate but I never liked these new styles of bodies and I never had been interested to build any of these kits, except I take some parts of roll cages, stering wheels, screw jacks and part of frames and this is about it. I use these parts to buld old school short trackers.