mark, I thought there were 2 1964 Cadillac kits; $1.98 kit with steerable wheels and custom parts and a 98 cent kit with non steerable wheels and no custom parts. I figured the USA Oldies came from the 98 cent kit.
The upper triple tree holds the tachometer and the speedometer. They are attached to the triple tree quarter circles. In real life, a chrome band encircles what the triple tree does not.. Speedo on the left, tach on the right. Speedo cable drops on the right side of the wheel to the center hub.
Good commentary Casey. You took the words out of my mouth. Anybody ever get the tail lights to fit the '69 Rambler Scrambler? I couldn't and if I ever did, they would be incorrect. Typical AMT, MPC and Johan to have a one interior tub fits all; convertible tub used for hardtops as well. Saves money and back then the picky builders didn't exist. The only exception I can think of is the 1961 Impala 4dr had a unique interior tub. But it was not available in a kit. Johan Promos (1964+ it seems) had bench seats but the kits had buckets. I'm not too crazy about the Caddy buckets in the 1964 and 1968 Oldies kits. The Plymouths were the same when they were new promos/kits. But we can't cry too much. USA Oldies kits, as flawed as they are, are a great starting point for a model project.
I don't think the QC dept of Johan existed from the 70s on. I remember picking up multiples of the Johan 71-72 Eldorado only to find broken rear bumpers. Sometimes the USA Oldies kits had missing parts too. At Woolworths they were cheap, so I just bought another.
The bumper slots in the back of the AMT Corvette seem perfect to duplicate the Mystery car. I don't go crazy about the chassis as this is an area most photos don't show. This model looks good so far. I forgot about the modified hood to accommodate the Mystery engine.
I just checked the stock wheel covers of the original '63 Corvette kit and the stock wheel covers of the ERTL '63 Prestige kit. They are the same as the photo on the USA-1 box. The original wheel covers and the ERTL are the same with one exception; the originals need wheel-backs (typical 3in1 kits) and the ERTLs appear to be promo based needing only a steel axle rod to connect. Some may remember how the resurrected '63 Impala kit under ERTL had promo type wheel covers instead of the original 3in1 type.. To me, under close examination, both stock Corvette wheel covers are the same. They look good. This Corvette tool has 8 wheel locations on the chrome tree. I don't think you can have this kit with 3 sets; mags, turbine wheels and stock wheel covers. This appears to be the difference between the Retro and USA-1 boxes.
It doesn't surprise me that your 62 Dodge kit has the wrong dash. That USA Oldie Johan Dodge kit was made more than 10 years after the original issue. Johan compiled the USA Oldies kits using what tools they could find. The USA Oldies '62 Chrysler 300 has a '63 or '64 interior. Unfortunately, it appears that Modelhaus doesn't offer the original dash. You did a great job making the dash.
I can' say we went off topic. It started with; "Does anybody want to see what's in the in the box?" paraphrased. Those pictures were worth a 1000 words. It is worth knowing that kit issue is the very best of a 40 year run. This Round2 box looks exactly the same as the AMT kit issued in 1974 or so. But it is not the same exact kit because it includes the small block and no 1967 backup light. Early ones only includes a big block 427. This Retro box only gives the mag wheels and the Corvette turbine wheels. Except for the split window, the 327 engine, 63 hood, 63 fender vents, seat pattern and removal of the backup light, it's a copy of the AMT annual 1967 kit. The Round2 USA-1 version of this kit appears to swap the Corvette turbine wheels for the common '63 Vette wheel covers. I would say that if you want recreate the Mystery Engine, either kit would be fine. These stock Vette wheel covers have only been issued in 1963 (Original), 1987 (Prestige) and 2015 (in the USA-1 kit). Some may complain that this AMT Corvette kit has a boring chassis. It's typical pre-1965 kit design. Can not compare to today's new kits. However, the shape fidelity of these old AMT kits are very good. Anybody reading this thread should get a pretty clear picture of what this kit is, and is not. I bought both.
unclescott58, that is a good question. On the original 327, the valve covers and other parts are on the chrome tree. The ERTL 327 has parts by themselves un-chromed. The ERTL 327 has a unique double snorkel air cleaner not from the original. Sometimes the parts look the same, but under careful examination, you can see they are a different tool. The original chrome tree and post-AMT ERTL chrome tree have few common parts. They include the 8 wheel locations, bumpers and rear license plate frame. The 327 parts were swapped for 427 big block parts. This new Retro '63 interior uses the 1963-1967 hardtop interior with seats molded to the bucket like a promo. The convertible interior from 1965-1967 with separate seats is missing. The ERTL hardtops and convertibles and Round2 hardtops are clearly the warmed over last annual issue which was the 1967 hardtop. It looks like the order of the tool was; 1967 annual hardtop, Funny, Candidate, '63 A163, '63 A163 ERTL, '63 Prestige conv, '63 conv ERTL, several more '63 split window, and Round2 Retros