Dave, appreciate you leveling with us on this - most guys in your position would say nothing, and chuckle to themselves as this thread ran on for umpteen pages. For the record, I'm anxious for news on that '59 Dodge...
On the subject of a 1970 variation of this tooling, I've always been a bit surprised that they chose to do a '72 H/O convertible instead of a 1970 442 W-30 hardtop. Since the '70 W-30 is generally considered the apex Olds muscle car, it seems like that would have even more sales potential. Who knows what the current plans are, but I'd wager that a 1970 version was planned back when this kit was originally developed. The W-27 rear end that's included wasn't even available anymore by 1972. The fact that it wasn't even mentioned in the instructions (at least in the first release) would seem to indicate that it was actually intended for a future release, logically a 1970 version. If Revell would release a 1970 442 W-30 hardtop (Cutlass S body style) variation, as long as they would assure that the bumpers and hood would interchange onto the convertible body, that would open up additional future variations. Along with a proper '71-'72 442 grille and '71 taillights, they'd have the ability to release hardtop or convertible versions for '70, '71, or '72.
Good point Steve - if they would tool up a correct '72 442 grille, I believe the ONLY other change required to create a '71 442 version would be the taillights. For all the talk we hear about needing to create multiple versions from a basic tool, it doesn't get much easier than that.
I'll throw in my 2 cents with Snake and Uncle Scott. My family always made the differentiation between hub caps and full wheel covers, so as long as I can remember I've also made that determination. Maybe we were more aware of it since we had vehicles with both types in our family. I also agree that it probably could also be a regional thing, or even come down to the group of friends someone hung out with growing up. If no one ever made the distinction, the thought would never occur that there was different terminology than what you had always been using. Things were pretty cut and dried for most American cars up until probably the early to mid sixties, when aftermarket "mags" and factory "sport" style wheels started coming on the scene. Pretty much anything that's not a traditional hub cap or wheel cover was called a center cap, but that's kind of a catchall. Sometimes (like on Chevy rally wheels) the center cap covers the lug nuts, almost like a traditional hub cap. On other wheels, like the Buick road wheels and pretty much all the traditional "mags", the center cap only covers the center bore of the wheel. Often a center cap is designed to fit only that specific type of wheel (for example you can't install center caps from a Chevy rally on a conventional steel wheel).
Hmmm, didn't think about it, but you might be on to something there. Kind of unusual for them to be announcing 2 full size Pontiac reissues at the same time. Neither one is direct competition to the Moebius products in my opinion, but I could believe that it is a factor.
I agree that it's best to build this one as a convertible, unless you're ambitious and want to do some serious reshaping of the A-pillars and the side window openings. Right out of the box, gluing the roof to the body will not look at all like a 1:1 hardtop. I seem to recall someone on here doing a comparison of an original MPC hardtop body and the Lindberg '72 body, which of course is really an old Palmer tool. The conclusion was that, surprisingly, Palmer did a pretty good job of cloning the MPC body all those years ago. (many people consider it the only Palmer-based kit that's worth buying) Seems like you could maybe bash the AMT '70 with the Lindberg body to make a decent looking hardtop. Still would be a fair amount of work, though.
Good call on Round 2's part on the Model A. They'll sell plenty to people looking to kitbash them with the new Revell releases, and vice versa - good for both companies. Lots of other stuff I'm Iiking here: '70 Bonneville, '84 GMC, and '65 Bonneville were all kits I missed out on previously. I've heard that the '75 Corvette also has a great set of bare rally wheels (no trim rings or center caps), but I've never seen pics to confirm. Anyone know for sure? If so, I'm in for one of those, too. (I know the AMT 1970 Vette also has a set, but the slots aren't correct and they're not deep enough)
Wait, you're saying that some Johan parts were molded without flash? Just kidding - I realize when these kits were first released, Johan quality was probably equivalent to AMT and MPC. By the late 80s and especially into the 90s, QC had pretty much gone out the window at Johan. Couple of the last Johan kits I bought back in the day have some parts trees that are pretty much completely flashed over. I've also had factory sealed Johans with different colored plastic from the factory. My Javelin AMX was molded in an ivory color, but had a separate bright orange rear spoiler in the box. My brother bought one a couple months later from the same LHS, and his contents were identical to mine. Pretty common for the Johan chrome trees to be molded in a different color from the rest of the kit. In the 90s I bought a whole batch of the '75 Cutlass kits. They were each molded in tan, but the plastic for the chrome tree was black in all of them.
Really great comparison pictures, thank you for posting those! I've got one of the Comets, but around the time that I decided I'd like to get the Maverick too, they stopped producing it. All these years, I was under the false assumption that both kits shared the majority of parts, including interiors and mechanicals. I now see almost nothing is actually shared. Overall very similar, but I'm amazed that so many of the details are different like the cages, seat style, and even the engine parts. Noticed that the Comet oil pan has a hole for the fat "sprue-style" axle to pass through, yet it looks like the oil pan for the Maverick does not. Do the Maverick front wheels mount with pins instead of a solid pass-thru axle like the Comet? Didn't expect to see that difference. FWIW, I believe I bought and built my Comet kit in the late 80s. It's molded in the same bright blue/aqua as your review subject, and mine came with the Fast Eddie decals.
Me too - I've always loved the look of those Cyclones ever since I saw one for the first time. I might try to cross breed this body with the Revell Torino chassis/mechanicals. Body itself wasn't altered too much to create the NASCAR version. Problem would be recreating the factory stock front grille, taillights, interior, etc. Hood was also smoothed for the NASCAR version (now Montego style vs. the original Cyclone style with the scoop). Modelhaus might offer some of this stuff, like the front bumper/grille assembly, never checked. If Revell wanted to get more mileage out of their Torino tooling, they could tool up the Cyclone body/interior/wheels. Chassis and drivetrain from the Torino could be used unchanged, I would think.
Yes, I suppose they must have been usable for a truck build, never gave it much thought. My thinking was that they were entirely useless on these car kits they were included with, since there was no reasonable situation where either of those cars would be converted to 6-lug wheels as a 1:1.