Jason Rothgeb

It has been a long time since I've posted here. How long? Well, I got this one finished a couple of years back and unfortunately, it's still my most recent build. Thought those that don't make it over to my "other" board might enjoy seeing it all put together.

These were taken in late March. Was this build ever finished? If so, I'd love to see some pics of it.

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy.... To put in terms an advocate for gun owners' rights can understand: Lawyers don't bleeed people dry, the people or organizations who hire them do. Don't blame the firm who handled the details for that policy, but the NHRA who see fit to bleed their fans dry of every last cent they can squeeze out of them as them emulate their mentor and big brother Nascar. Witness their emulation of the "Chase" playoff system. As for the upcoming kits which are the subject of this thread. They kind of mystify me. Revell has been on a two year roll: the '55 Chevy hardtop, the '32 Sedan, the '49 Merc, the '70 Mach I Mustang, the '69 Nova, the '57 150, and the soon to be released '32 five window. These funnies seem to smack of lunatic fringe appeal like all the cries of "Hey Revell when are we finally getting a '53 Mercury Parklane Estate Wagon" etc. One that a few folks who are intrested will pick up the moment it comes out and the rest will languish on the shelves. I don't think any of us out there mind the subject, it's just that we can take it or leave it. Especially at what seems to be Revell's new price of admission ~ $25. All of us would grab one as a raffle/door price $5-$10 Big Lot closeout etc. But at $25, I bet a lot of us are going to sit this one out.

Wow! finishing a model in 24 hours is one thing, but to have them all look that nice is a true credit to the talent the six of you possess. Was the paint polished, or did you all just lay it down that smooth? There is some nice gloss coming off those cars!

I just did, that more color coat over clear coat on my current project, with Testor's laquer, Fathom Green, over Tamiya clear laquer. It worked out fine. Layed down really nice since the clear had been polished prior to being over coated by the color coat. Part of the reason this worked is Tamiya clear is really thin in terms of coverage thickness even in the case of multiple coats.

Thanks for all the info Lyle, it helps a great deal. There is one thing I can add: The wheels on Yenko's were not Torque Thrusts. They are Atlas Wheels. A design similar to thrusts obviously, but if you look closely they are slightly different. The spokes on the atlas wheels come to a sharp edge on the middle of the Atlas spoke while the Torque thrust spokes are round. Check the Atlas wheels, 69 Yenko Camaro kit, and the Torque Thrusts, Revell Deuce coupe. This information comes from the Yenko kit instructions and IIRC, Dean Milano, who most likely wrote the copy.

Hello everyone. Thanks for the kind words. I'll answer everyone's question in one post not necessarily in the order they were asked. First the paint: It's Testor's Hugger Orange out of the rattlecan under Tamiya clear. This is the second car I've used this color on the first being a ZL-1 COPO Camaro. I have two more planned with this color: A 69 Yenko Nova and a 69 Corvette. Second, the Colorado Plates. These came from the most recent issue of the Revell 70 Challenger T/A ( the 1/24 one). I could not find my aftermarket sheet of vanity plates at the time I had finished this car, and liked these because they looked cool and provided a nice color contrast to the orange. Third, I will be at the NNL East and I hope to meet to say hello to those I know and meet those I havben't yet. I'll be wearing my club golf shirt, Philly Area Car Modelers which is Kelly green and has my name, Jason on it. Hope to see everyone there, Jason

I feel kinda stupid chiming in on the chorus of "Wow, that's cool"s, but Wow! that is cool. There is a lot of us building models and it takes a lot to make something we have not seen before, but you have done that with this piece; very nicely, I might add. Another thing is a trailer queen Pro street is the perfect venue for such a neat gimmick. A show car tuner or lowrider maybe being the only other genres more appropriate for such electronic showmanship.

I was really hoping to have this done by the NNL East, and though I did make a lot of progress yesterday, it's destined for the primer table. It's the Revell kit and I will be adding Keith Marks decals. This was originally going to be Panther Pink (I'm a sucker for the cliche muscle car colors) but I went with Testor's Fathom Green to replicate the dark green on Chris's 1:1 Charger.

This is my only completion of '09 so far. It has been to the Feb East Coast "Big Sit", the Spotlight board and both my clubs, Silent Traffic and PACM. After next Saturday at the NNL East, it will be "retired", to come out only for the PACM June contest. I post it for the folks who might have missed it at one of those many outlets or are unable to attend the big show in NJ. The kit is box stock of the most recent Revell release with Trim Ringless Rally IIs kit bashed from Revell's 70 T/A.

Thanks Zuk. The paint is Testor's Hugger Orange Laquer in the rattlecan with Tamiya clear over it. Aside from the bumper there was some BMF on the rocker panel and door handle as well as clean up with Novus 1. I highly recommend the kit it is a nice kit that went together well with the only problem getting the kitbashed wheels from the 70 Trans Am kit to fit. I used them because they represent the Rally IIs without trim rings which were correct for the Judge. Other kitbashed pieces include the rear and sideview mirrors from the Z/28 kit which were more accurately molded than the GTO pieces.

To a factory stock muscle car fan, "it don't get no better than this." I built the exact same car with white stripes and a red interior. Also I kitbashed a set of Rally wheels from the Z-28 since I hate those five spoke rims. Did the donk version come with the Black SS stripes? The older version of the kit I had came only with the white. Thanks for sharing

First off WoW! My last visit was July 3rd 2008. As I was telling most of the folks at the Big Sit yesterday, it has been a whirlwind year with a new job that had me traveling almost every week for the past six months and the birth of my second daughter on Aug.22nd. This did not leave a lot of time for building, but I did manage to get my first build of 2009 done and the first completion since all the craziness began in June of '08. This is now finished, but I'm posting it here since this is an in-progress image that I cobbed from Doebley's fotki album. Thanks Bob

It might be a diferent car or the same car at a different times but here is a link to some info on the car: [url=http://www.autoblog.com/2006/11/26/auction-action-1971-hemi-cuda-convertible/] The link above has the car for sale at $4.5 Million. Another blog about a Hemi Convertible which looks to be the same one, had it selling for $2.5 million in 2005. The guy who bought it was trying to corner the market on 1971 Hemi Cuda Converts. There are 11 of them and this guy has the wherewithall to try to buy them all. Here's another link about the 1:1: [url=http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/20/2007-rm-auction-scottsdale-hemi-cuda-convertible-brings-2-2/]

Thanks for the kind words guys. Here is another shot I will post more as time allows this weekend

Hello all, It's been a while since I've posted a "fresh" build here. I put fresh in quotes because although this was only finished a couple of months ago, it has made its rounds at local club meetings, the NNL East, and the "other" message board. I remind myself that each outlet has a few unique users, so for the few folks who might not have seen this: here it is. It is box stock from Revell's most recent issue of this tool with the addition of ignition wiring and wheels. The tires are the no name "Polyglas" tires from the Revell 69 Charger R/T and many others. The rims are from a 69 Roadrunner 440+6 conversion kit. Since that is 1/25 they are a little puny. The hubcaps came from Revell's 70 Road Runner kit. The paint is Tamiya light metallic blue under Tamiya clear. I was attempting to replicate one of the TWO 71 convertible Hemi Cudas with a manual trans sold in the U.S. It sold for two plus million a couple of years back. Both of those cars were B5 (blue fire metallic) blue with blue interiors. This color was supposed to be that color, but by the time it was cleared and polished, it more closely resembles the darker B7 (Jamica) Blue. Sometimes in modeling, you just gotta roll with it.

These guys covered most of what I wanted to say, but I will add this: start simple in terms of a model that is not going to have fit problems and not overwhelm you in terms of parts count and complexity. My faves in terms of price and subject matter include the old Monogram tools of American Muscle car. Kits like the 70 Pontiac Trans Am and 71 Plymouth 'Cuda. Another good one is the old 1970 Mustang which was just reissued with the new option of building a Mach I in addition to the Boss 302 of prior releases of this kit. These kits also will allow you to concentrate on getting the paint fit and finish you want without worrying about too much else. Another good example of this is the Revell Snap-tite 2009 Camaro. Here is a kit aimed at beginning modelers that more expert modelers are using as a platform for their amazing painting skills. They won't go together in 20 minutes like the box states but ther finished product is out of this world. Another good place to look for well engineered simpler kits is Tamiya. They are a little more expensive than the Revell offerings. Sad to say I can not recommend a specific kit becuase although I own and have started build Tamiya kits, I have yet to finish one Blame it on the American Muscle car streak I've been on for the last couple of years. One last bit of advice I would offer is attend a model show if at all possible. All of the "major" shows have an unbelievable amount of talented building on display. Better still, at least 95% of the builders are more than happy to talk your ear off if you ask them how they did it, or what they used. Hope this is enough to get you started, Jason P.S. I don't know where you are at, but the air here in PA as I write this is thick enough to drink. High humidity is brutal for painting. Even more so for the slow drying enamels versus the quicker drying laquers like Tamiya and the new Testor's lacquers. If you are going to paint in this stuff use a lacquer.

Here's the key Greg: try to make at least a little bit of progress each day. I too am short on modeling time, but it's that little bit of progress each day that keeps me and my projects moving forward. Today's progress for me was installing the oil filter on my 1986 Monte Carlo SS project and a little bit of spray painting the parts for the same kit. And that's another part of enthusiasm, progress, and completion, on a limited time budget: staying focused. The Monte has been on the bench (almost) exclusively for the past week. During that time the engine is now 80% done and the body is ready to be polished. I am not gonna say that just one car on the bench doesn't get a little tedious during the low spots, but it has kept me on pace for finishing 4-5 pretty much box stock builds per year that I'm proud of. Right now I am really itching to start a white Boss 302 and did allow myself the ceremonial gluing of its engine block last night, but I've got to stick to the Monte or it won't get done. One last thing is you should be enjoying yourself. If the idea of slowly nibbling away at one build for a couple of months until it's finished doesn't sound fun, it's probably not going to work for you. It is supposed to be fun after all. Best of luck finding your groove Greg

Well when somebody is getting ready to lay down six figures plus for one of the aforementioned cars, they probably expend a little time and effort to authenticate the car's origin and history. Kind of funny to me when you look at the current cost of some muscle cars and their shared pedigree and parts with tens or hundreds of thousands of cars "just" like them that rolled off the assembly line ahead or behind them. To the non-car guy, that '70 Hemi 'Cuda hardtop looks just like the rusty Barracuda with a 318 his uncle had in the 70s. "It was the same color even".

Nothing further I can add except "You're right, and I should read more carefully." It does pose and interesting question: who has 27 425 H.P. 427s laying around to install in cars?

This is the reason I love message board discussion (even with myself). It prompts me to do research which in turn leads to learning. What did I learn? There were COPO in the form of Yenko ordered 427Novas, according to the link. It's just that they were super rare, 37 made, and in Don Yenko's words, "lethal" you can read all about it here: http://www.superchevy.com/features/nova/su...ovas/index.html

While there were not 427 COPO Novas, there were 350 LT-1 COPOs correct? Or was the LT-1 an RPO for the Nova? As you can tell, Nova knowledge is a Bow Tie blind spot for me

Hey Dave, This is strictly a (somewhat) educated guess, but I bet that is not an MP car for a couple of reasons: first it's too subdued. MP cars had lots of show to go with their go. It may be a COPO car with the hood and valve covers added after the fact. The second reason is that MP mainly tuned Camaros, there are other Motion cars like that one Corvette (Manta Ray?) and the Cobra dragster, but he was mostly about those Camaros. The person we really need to weigh in on this thread is Ed Cervo. He knows just about everything there is to know about Joel Rosen and Motion Performance. I can't remember seeing him here, so maybe we pose this question on the spotlight board where he shows up from time to time. As for the Nova, I too am stoked about the new Revell release. The last two in this series have been multiple build releases, this and the 70 Mach/ Boss Mustang. Motivation for me to start and finish the as yet unstarted Mustang to justify the purchase of the Nova

David, Given the number of views and the fact that no one has replied, maybe First Gen Camaros aren't as common as everyone thinks, at least in the modeling world. I have yet to build this kit, but it is on the short "to do" list after picking up Missing Links 68 Camaro Convertible body at the most recent NNL East. Of course, even when I do complete that, I won't be using the kit body. Maybe it's time to finally build the 67 Z-28 I tried and failed at a few years back. It was a classic case of Advanced Model Syndrome. I attempted to replace the AMT's chassis and power train with that of the far superior pieces from the Revell '69 Z-28 kit. Anyway when I do get a 67 or 68 Camaro built, I will share my experience here and bump this thread from the murky depths it will have sunk to by the time that happens.

I wanted to respond to this passage in your post for a couple of reasons: First, thanks for bringing that Vette to the show. I loved it. At a show, certain models just jump out at you and begged to be noticed. The Vette was such a car for me. The only bad thing about shows like this is that it's impossible to see all the cars and talk to the people who built them. Thanks to this forum and this post, I can say I enjoyed looking at your car and was impressed with your skill as a modeler. The second reason is that I think at least 75% of the people who attend NNL's would agree with sentiment expressed in the passage above. There are awards handed out, but even for the guys who have a shot at winning them, they are secondary, tertiary, or even further down the list than that. It's about sharing and the fellowship of other modelers. I know that sounds corny, but it's true. So Peter, try to attend next year, and I will as well to show off what I've done and I'll eagerly check out the 1000+ projects that everyone else has finished. And if we're both wearing our Model Cars nametags (Thanks Greg). We might even get to say Hi to each other. Jason As a P.S. I only submitted a partial ballot for the awards. I feel it's important for Juniors to receive feedback and reinforcement for the cool stuff they are doing, so I voted for that. And I voted for the best '49 Merc since it was a small category and I looked over the entire field. So I did not even vote for a Best in show. Also, I bet I was not the only one too distracted to submit a complete ballot (or one at all).