The Report function of the forum works well. If you see someone acting up, acting out, or just being an okole, use the Report function. It works! I have it set up so it not only sends me an email, but that email is then marked with a flag, and get's put to the top of my email list. I will try to access/look at the report/topic as soon as possible, but remember, I'm on a six hour time delay, and other mods not only have a life, but a real job as well. k den
As John mentioned in an earlier post.......it's more than just that. The windshield frames between the two are quite different as I can see, and would also require molding a new windshield. Some may not care about the difference, but if I were building the open car, that difference would bug the heck out me, so I'd have to change it. At one time, I thought about converting the kit I have into a '58 (would also mean different taillights, and a bit different seat pattern), and I thought about sacrificing a '59 Dodge body's windshield frame to do the correct conversion. I've since changed my mind about that as those Johan bodies are hard to get, so if I ever decide to tackle this one, I'd just do some surgery on the frame and mold my own glass. It's funny how Mopar changed all the hardtop windshield frames for '58 getting rid of the "overhang", 'cept for Plymouth. For whatever reason, they stuck with the overhang on the header (their convertibles were like all the others), but by '59 all hardtop models joined the party and they got rid of the overhang.
Well said Tom! Now there's something I DIDN'T know! That explains the dearth of "sporty" vehicles out of Europe from the '60's! They were heavily taxed as a luxury item! Crazy! And yes, I see MANY times more Chargers on the road than I do Challengers. Interesting enough, while Challengers are seen more and more, I still get the "wave" or flash of the headlights from other Challenger drivers. I don't know if you read Car and Driver, but when the new for '06 Charger was being shown for the first time in an artist's rendering in late '04......the absolute SCREAMS of protest that was heard around the automotive world could be heard for months! Car and Driver went on to say a couple months after that issue went out that in all their publishing years up to that point, they had NEVER received so much hateful mail about one car ever! Yet, as you said, even when the Challenger came out a few years later, the Charger went on to outsell them by a big bunch. Practicality rules these days, and for a number of reasons, most don't want to deal with a two door car. Of course, myself being single, I'll take one over a four door in a hot second, but if I had a family with kids..........well, that would be a different story!
I was in high school when that '77 car was first intro'd in late '76 and I remember not liking it at all! It was a HUGE departure from the previous Caprice land yacht which I really liked (my football coach had one), and it would take a while before I took a liking to them. Now, you never see them on the road, and I'd like to have a model of one now. I'm not gonna hold my breath though-------as popular as that car was, especially the four door, I'd be shocked if we ever see a snap/regular kit of it. As American 185 Heavy said..........there's a number of '70's cars that might do well in the plastic world-----my guess would be to intro them as lowriders or donks ('71 Riviera anyone??) and they'd stand a much better chance to sell. I'd put money on a couple '77-'79 T-Birds, or perhaps the '77-'79 Lincoln Mark V's?? Oh yeah! Interesting though how the tastes have changed in the public regarding four doors vs two doors and yet we don't get new tool kits of 'em. I think it's more of the fact of changing demographics compared to what they were 40-50 years ago. Too many people regard cars as some sort of appliance (Toyotas come to mind), and throw in the fact that young folks as a whole are not as car crazy as we were way back when, and there you go. Kit manufacturers have to watch every nickle and they'll be mighty selective in what they're going to spend their hard earned tooling dollars on. The Starsky and Hutch Torino seems to be doing well among the younger set because it's on TV, and TV cars will do well as there's that "star" factor to them. At least that's one man's opinion..........
Excellent conversion and beautiful model! Your swapping body sections is exactly the technique I had to do here with my Shelby. Why this body style is ignored even in plastic is beyond me since they were more common than the fastbacks but oh well------sometimes we have to go through extreme measures to get what we want.
Wow, it's enough that I had a rough day at work today, and now I see this. I met MIguel around 2005 or so, and he had invited me to PR to judge the model contest there, back around this time of year in '06. I had a GREAT time and sure hated to come back here to cold Central PA after being spoiled by the weather there. I'll echo what Luis said in that Miguel was always very enthusiastic about the hobby, and was a great builder himself, especially of dioramas. Here are a couple pics of Miguel, Marcos Cruz, and I when we were in PR back in '06.................... Miguel in the green shirt, with Cruz on his left. That's a MUCH bigger me back then!
Luis on Miguel's right......
Us at a local pavilion talking models. The fellow next to Miguel is Rogelio (can't remember his last name), and he was saying something that eventually had us all laughing! The other fellow in front of me is Carlos DeJesus (I think that's his last name), one of PR's BEST builders! Believe me!!
Rest in peace brother Miguel............you will be missed!
Round 2's '58 Plymouth would be the best chassis donor for that-------The '57 Chrysler would be too long. The engine is another story though as we've seen in another thread, there's no really correct engine for that era of Mopar available in kit form. I'd settle for a curbside kit as I can do something with the chassis and interior. But even if they don't come out with one, I've got one of the X-EL kits stashed away, along with a spare body that I picked up from Okie Spaulding years ago. That spare body was going to give up its roof to try and correct the inaccurate one on the '58 Plymouth, but I don't have the heart to cut up what's now a somewhat hard to get body/kit. I'd sooner correct the one on the Plymouth on my own and leave the '59 body for another future project.
That's my thinking on this car Luc. Problem is, unless the car has some kind of racing pedigree, I don't see it ever happening. I may be wrong, but '59 Dodges aren't exactly setting the world on fire as far as wants in the kit world, except for us guys out here in the lunatic fringe. I'd sure like to see it happen, but then there's that pesky issue of what else could come out of the tooling except for a stone stock build?
Wow! That was a beautiful car Nick! After I made my last post, I did some digging particularly on eBay Motors, and came across a beautiful yellow '65 convertible that had a TON of chassis shots. I saved most of them and yes, I can see the differences in the floor stampings between the '60-'64's and the '65's through '69's. Not a super major change, but different enough that some scratch-building would be needed on my part being the purist that I am. I don't remember my Uncle complaining about the handling with any of his Corvairs, and he had owned a lot of 'em from both gens. Of course, he was VERY possessive about them as I wanted to drive his '66 years ago, and he said..........."NOBODY drives my Corvairs except me!"
Nick, I've always wondered were the floorpans essentially the same? I know that Chevy went to a four link rear suspension in '65 getting rid of the swing axles from '64. I think the front suspension was changed a bit too. I wish my Uncle were still alive------the man literally lived and breathed Corvairs when I was growing up and still had his '66 Monza when he passed away in '09. I don't know where he got the parts, but anything that went wrong with 'em he could fix. I think he owned just about every Corvair model that Chevrolet made at some point.........four doors, two doors, wagons, the Greenbriar van (remember those?). Corvairs were so embedded in my mind as a kid that I could close my eyes and could tell if one was starting up. Their starters had a very distinctive sound when turning over. Yup! All new styling for '65 as well as a much needed suspension upgrade. '64's still had the swing axles in the rear but Chevy IIRC added a sway bar to help the twitchy handling. That '65 bodystyle would be the only major change for Corvairs till they ceased production in early '69.
Same here! It's basically the '59 Chevy done right. I really wish that Round 2 could have somehow included stock wheel covers for this along with the dog dishes. That's one of the things I meant to order when I made my last placement with The Modelhaus but forgot. Now it's too late.
I wanted to mention that I also have his '59 Chevy Impala "flattop". Although I didn't get that one directly from him, it does give you the rear window. You'd need to use the Revell '59 (looks like the convertible windshield) for the front glass, as well as the rest of the kit to complete it.
Good question Bruce! I'm not a Corvair expert, but it seems that the '69 could be a donor, although I think there were chassis differences between the first and second generations. I'd like to build a good '66 some day (the same Uncle had one of those too---a Monza coupe), but I absolutely hate the molded in front suspension, and I'd want to come up with something that's close to replicating it without it being too inaccurate.
Yeah, that's the downside Steve as when he intro's something new, the price can go sky high witness his recently intro'd '56 Studebaker Commander. Now that the kit's been out for awhile, prices are more reasonable as whoever wanted one, now has one. His casting are very good..........about right up there with The Modelhaus as far as quality IMO. I've got from him so far, his '71 Riviera (little too flat in the roof area though), and the '71 Olds Delta 88. VERY good quality with no pinholes that I can see. The only downside is that none of his parts are chromed, and some don't have glass-----you'll have to either make your own, or get one from another kit. Most of his kits though are meant to be a sort of trans kit for something else, so they can be easily worked with.
Those look good Howard! I've got a built up '64 Spyder in the stash, but that wagon looks mighty tempting! My Uncle had one of those many years ago (a Lakewood?), and it would be neat someday to make a model of it.