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It would be an Oydessy. There's no engine available that even comes close to replicating the Volvo engine, so you'd have to scratch build that whole ball of wax. Beyond that as a curbside there's no engine bay, or even strut towers to work with so you'd be completely scratch building all of that as well.
Well thank the diety of your choice you don't have to buy one. Wasn't' the time to bemoan this waste of tooling dollars 11 1/2 months ago when they announced this kit? I guess if nothing else the take away from this forum is I always know exactly what kits people don't want to buy. Not sure why I need this information, or why the majority of people here need to scream it from the rooftops.
Like Mark said the Toronados were JoHan tools, they are gonesky, recycled into a washer and dryer back in the 70s when the wheels came off that place. The MPC one might as well have suffered the same fate for all of the "conversion" work that was done to it back in the day. Nobody ever thought about tooling variations or reissues back when kits were a couple of bucks a piece and mostly a kid's toy. You have to look into the 90s before you see model kits engineered so that version b and version c don't destroy the version a tooling. Round2 would have to make entirely new kits as there isn't even a tooling insert left over to work from in 2017. There's nothing to "bring back".
I know that Dave had said they were going to address the missing turn signals and Pontiac scripts in future releases, I personally hadn't seen the NASCAR kit to know if it had been or not. I hoped it would be. On the other hand it was more of what a hot mess that box art is - nothing says buy the most expensive mass market kits sold by a U.S. manufacturer - like a big non fitting hood gap all over the box.
Oh BTW while everyone was in a tizzy trying to guess which Revell announcement doesn't exist, Moebius snuck the Catalina out.
I think my favorite parts are there are clearly turn signals and a Pontiac script that exist on the box art "drawing" that clearly don't exist on the model (at least not that built test shot on the box - but there might be turn signal indentations I guess if you stare at it long enough) and check out that wicked mold line on the bumper - whoooo people on the Space Station want that sanded off...love the fact the ill-fitting hood was directly copied onto the box art "drawing" of the car too...
The old box kit is from 1995, the renewal box was done in 2007 - and is still an active kit in the Tamiya catalog. Nothing wrong with the original kit, that's the one I have - for the same cheaper reason - but the few decals in there are 22 years old. Not that replacements and P/E doesn't exist to replace them.
I'd also venture to say they have the concept of tooling engineering down pat, and believe in developing strong bonds with aftermarket (1:1) companies. They can whip out version after version of kits with tooling inserts and decal changes because of the way they design the body to be constructed. You see a lot of whining in places like this about kits with separate hoods, but no engines, but that separate hood allows them to quickly reconfigure the tooling to make another trim level, or year of manufacture by changing out the hood and front fascia for instance. If you look at the new Toyota ProBox/Succeed that is coming out in December for example there's just a form for the front end, and all of the front clip is separate. This will allow them to backdate the tooling to the previous generation of the vehicle by just tooling up the new front clip pieces since the rest of the body remains the same.
Also with the various Tuner/VIP series that are done, anyone else notice those are BRANDED by the companies they're featuring? Vertex, Rojam, Mode Parfume, etc, etc, etc. Meanwhile the next version of the Revell Bronco isn't a BAJA Bronco because they can't either afford or be bothered to secure all the licensing to make an actual replica of the vehicle. I will give them props for the Foose branding, but then again aside from the two new kits - it just meant adding a few wheels and decals into existing product lines - which makes financial sense, but wasn't particularly inspiring either. It's not like the hobby market in Japan is getting any younger either... But when comparing the facts, in the past 12 months we've gotten 3 new tool kits out of Europe, 7 (and I think I'm being nice and giving them credit for the glue NASCAR kits, when they are at least based on the earlier SnapTite kits for the body shell) new tools out of the U.S., and 13 out of Japan. Those are strictly new tooling, if you start adding in modified reissues the U.S. goes to like 11 and Japan goes to over 20.
If you don't think they see Baby Boomers as effectively their only customers, you haven't paid any attention to Revell/Moebius/Round2's marketing and developing schemes for the past 15 years and the next 15 years into the future.
Those are both known as "Renewal Packaging". They're just freshened up box art to match the rest of the "black box" Ferrari kits that have the parts layout on the bottom, content wise they are the same. I'd go for the newer boxes just for stuff like fresher decals and whatnot.
If it were something from Revell, I'd be intrigued to see exactly what - since they already announced the 1Q stuff - so other than maybe showing the tooling to the updated '69 Mustang... I'm betting on Moebius, since both Dave and SteveG have both said they're going to be showing new prototypes, so that's the confirmed new tooling that will be there.