doggie427 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) The maroon one is the 2013 AMBR-winning, V8-60 /Ardun-powered, Brizio-built John Mumford car. There's no track-nose in the current kit, but I'll be doing a one-off nose/hood for the Eddie Dye car. Assuming that works out well, I'll do a nose and hood for the Mumford car too. Revell makes a V8-60, so everything to build it exists other than V8-60 Ardun heads. Love this car. Bill are you aware that there are 2 completely different versions of Ardun heads in the Revell '50 Ford p/u ? The first version had a very short production run i think because they were noticeably undersized and oddly shaped .I've never really compared them to pictures of the 'baby' Arduns or mocked them up on the V8-60 block but they might be a good starting point for a V8-60 conversion. Just thinkin' a little outside the box. Tim Boyd would probably be the guy to ask regarding the earlier version Arduns in the first run of the '50 Ford p/u. Edited September 12, 2015 by doggie427 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lacy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Love this car. Bill are you aware that there are 2 completely different versions of Ardun heads in the Revell '50 Ford p/u ?The first version had a very short production run i think because they were noticeably undersized and oddly shaped .I've never really compared them to pictures of the 'baby' Arduns or mocked them up on the V8-60 block but they might be a good starting point for a V8-60 conversion. Just thinkin' a little outside the box.Not only was the first '50 Pickup ARDUN head setup shaped and sized wrong, the engine also used a standard flathead intake manifold which is completely wrong as the ARDUN heads have their own intake ports and require a custom manifold. It also requires a separate flat valley plate to cover where the original intake manifold would go.It's still not enough under size to work on a V860 engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie427 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Thanks Dennis for clearing that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Found a pair of wide-whites that are a scale 1.5" shorter diameter that the first ones. With some fiddling, I was able to drop the grille somewhat relative to the tire tops, and because the diameter of the tires is smaller, the front end came own a pretty good bit. The allowed me to drop the tail to where the rear tire tops are well above the turtledeck, and to drop the cowl to get a little more rake as well. The line between the cowl and the radiator shell is still good (with the top of rad shell lower than the cowl line) and I'm thinking I can come down on the cowl just a tick more. Ground clearance is also still acceptable for a real-world useful vehicle. The difference between this mockup and the last one may not look like much to many observers, and to others the changes will be significant in getting a lower, more aggressive and balanced look. A decision is yet to be made concerning the final front-axle placement and wheelbase...depending on whether the car is to represent a fairly current build with an electric fan, or an earlier period-build with a belt-driven fan on the water pump. Edited September 16, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) IMHO I would stay in period and go with the belt drive fan. I like old school. Edited September 16, 2015 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lacy Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 An electric fan would look like poop on this car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Period correct fan or electric would still be ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Nice mockup Bill. The new front tires make a big difference. I'm quite surprised that I like the idea of sidepipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Thanks for all the interest and kind comments, one and all. I'm still on the fence about the fan. I agree with Dennis that an electric has the potential to look like doo, but then again, a deeply-shrouded unit that didn't scream 'catalog street rod' could look OK, would make the car quieter and get a little power freed up off the line too...not to mention probably cooling better in the bargain. Since I build these things as if I were building the real one for myself...we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lacy Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I agree with Dennis that an electric has the potential to look like doo, but then again, a deeply-shrouded unit that didn't scream 'catalog street rod' could look OK... You mean instead of a $50 dollar Hayden fan off the shelf from Pepboys with those awesome through-ties rammed through the radiator core to hold it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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