martinfan5 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Toyota is finally killing of the Scion brandThe Scion brand is no more. Well, at least, soon it won’t be.On Wednesday morning, Scion announced that, starting in August, all 2017 model year Scion models will be sold as rebadged Toyotas. The FR-S sports car, iA sedan, iM five-door hatch, and C-HR will live on as Toyotas. However, the tC coupe will be given one final edition and then sent out to pasture at the end of the 2016 model year.Scion was started in 2003 to attract younger buyers who already knew the value of the Toyota brand but didn’t necessarily want to own a Corolla like mom. The brand seemed to start off strong but fizzled in the subsequent years. In fact, many of us automotive journalists wondered aloud to one another why Scions couldn’t just be Toyotas. Appears people inside Toyota wondered the same. https://www.yahoo.com/autos/see-ya-scion-car-tried-181110475.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Would make more sense to rebadge them as Fisher-Price ("My First Car"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildnething Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 It only makes sense. Now hopefully they can continue the FR-S as the GT-86 here, and put some more TRD versions out. Really what Toyota should have done is instead of creating a whole new line and brand, they should have developed TRD more and made it a true in house tuning/performance division. For example, M in BMW, Polestar in Volvo, AMG in Mercedes, F in Lexus, SVT/ST/Shelby with Ford, and what not. TRD should have been something similar imo. I think that is what they will do. They will release that "supra" prototype as the flagship, the FR-S will move over to the toyota brand to be a cheaper alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) I guess my 2005 xB (aka. "da Box", "the Fridge", "the Toaster", or even "pregnant roller-skate") will be a collectible someday? I have to make sure to save the emblems! Edited February 4, 2016 by peteski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathgoblin Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Unfortunately, they screwed up the xB with the update. It went from a kinda cute "toaster" to just a really weird looking not-quite-crossover. I always did like the TC, kinda hoped they'd kit that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsuperdan Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'll be honest...I'm surprised Scion lasted as long as it did. At least in Canada. Decent product, but never did find it's niche. Rebrand them all as Toyota and call it a day. It's what they should have done in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I read somewhere a while ago that the Scions were rebadged Dihatsu's. Anyone know if that is true or not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill J Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) That FRS is a great little car, very fun to drive, the power to weight ratio and being rear wheel drive will make you a believer. In the real world, the car is already badged as a Toyota, they also make one badged as another brand, I forget which. For some reason in the USA Toyota decided to badge the car as a Scion instead of as a Toyota. Perhaps to boost the Scion image.If I was looking for a 2 seat, really fun little car, I would not hesitate to buy a FRS. Nice looking too. To be practical, I will keep my Jeep Wrangler Unlimited and not buy a 2 seater anytime soon. Edited February 4, 2016 by Bill J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsuperdan Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 That FRS is a great little car, very fun to drive, the power to weight ratio and being rear wheel drive will make you a believer. In the real world, the car is already badged as a Toyota, they also make one badged as another brand, I forget which. For some reason in the USA Toyota decided to badge the car as a Scion instead of as a Toyota. Perhaps to boost the Scion image. If I was looking for a 2 seat, really fun little car, I would not hesitate to buy a FRS. Nice looking too. To be practical, I will keep my Jeep Wrangler Unlimited and not buy a 2 seater anytime soon. It's also a Subaru BRZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I read somewhere a while ago that the Scions were rebadged Dihatsu's. Anyone know if that is true or not ?No, other than one being a rebadged Mazda 2 and the FR-S being the near twin of the BRZ, they were all existing Toyotas that were federalized for this market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 51 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) We had a 09 XB...ran and drove great but got very poor gas milage (geared too low and poor areo) and while it was trouble free it wasn't as well built as our previous Toyotas. Our new Camry gets far better milage (35+ highway vs 28) and is much better built and it only cost about $1200 more. Edited February 4, 2016 by mike 51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yawn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yawn...Pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete J. Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Scion, Saturn similar idea. Didn't really work in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Suburban Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Same with Geo. From 98 on they were just Chevrolets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordairgtar Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 My step daughter used to have a xB. I drove it a couple of times...it was OK but not as cool as my HHR Panel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I read somewhere a while ago that the Scions were rebadged Dihatsu's. Anyone know if that is true or not ?Nope.It is pure Toyota (made in Japan). All the parts have Toyota markings on it and the xB was sold as Toyota bB in Japan. I read that it shares its drivetrain with Toyota Echo.We had a 09 XB...ran and drove great but got very poor gas mileage (geared too low and poor areo) and while it was trouble free it wasn't as well built as our previous Toyotas.I agree 100%. The first generation xB was cuter and better than the second generation (2008 and up) xB. I usually get mid-30 MPGs in my 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Zimmerman Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 We bought a brand new white XB in 2005, and frankly, it's the best daily driver I have ever owned. Consistently pulls 40 plus MPG on the highway; roomy, comfortable, good stereo, AC, power windows, for under 15 grand brand new......Looks small, but I can get 40 2x4x8's in it ( if I leave the wife at home) and it's taken me to the Toledo NNL, NNL east, and a lot of other shows; I'm quite happy with it............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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