landman Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I have this somewhat incomplete engine in my stash. It was listed as "Ford 351 Race". The valve covers have what appears to be Motorcraft over the Ford oval. The numbers on the chrome sprue are 029-4222, they won't come up on Google.Can someone help me ID it? Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Looks like a NASCAR race engine from an AMT kit. Edited May 2, 2016 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Yup. Judging by the wrapped headers, the single 4-bbl manifold, the short race-style belt runs, what looks like a non-production fabricated sump and the manual gearbox, I'd think that's exactly what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Brian Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I agree with everyone else, it's an AMT Nascar engine. As for what it represents, Ford Nascar engines of this period were based on the 351 Cleveland. You can tell the difference between the two Ford 351s by the valve covers, the Cleveland covers are rectangular with bolts in the upper corners while the Windsor covers are rounded on the top corners like a 289/302 cover. The water pumps are also different but that's sometimes hard to tell in kit form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 OK thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurattraction Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I know this may be more info than you care/need to know, but NASCAR engines at that time were based on a 351 Windsor style of block and intake but utilized 351C-based, canted valve cylinder heads. The cylinder heads in this kit represent raised port Yates heads, as can be seen by the extra detail on the exhaust side. As Brian said, the rectangular valve covers, with eight bolts is a dead give away that it's a Cleveland style head, given the context of the kit. I have owned several 351C engines over the years, so felt compelled to provide a bit more info... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RancheroSteve Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 NASCAR engines at that time were based on a 351 Windsor style of block and intake but utilized 351C-based, canted valve cylinder heads. Yep, exactly. Essentially an evolution of what they started with the Boss 302.Those AMT NASCAR kits don't seem to get a lot of love, but most of the parts - including the engines - are pretty well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 Well, I'm going to assemble whatever I have and put it in the engine shop dio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledsel Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Those build up nice.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 While we're at it, are Ford Nascar engines blue or all aluminum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RancheroSteve Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 As far as I know: Bare steel block; aluminum heads, water pump, and intake manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xingu Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I think they only paint NASCAR engines when they are trying to hide something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurattraction Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 As far as I know: Bare steel block; aluminum heads, water pump, and intake manifold.x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 I found some blue blocks online during my research. Might be a Rousch thing though. I'll do this one as you guys suggest steel & aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) There. There was no carb and only half of one of the headers, so I drilled out ports and boltholes and left it like that. I may redo the back of the bell housing. What is the thing on the lower right front? Fuel pump? Edited May 3, 2016 by landman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RancheroSteve Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 There. There was no carb and only half of one of the headers, so I drilled out ports and boltholes and left it like that. I may redo the back of the bell housing. What is the thing on the lower right front? Fuel pump?Looking good so far! The thing on the lower right is the pump for the dry sump system. It should have a bunch of braided hoses running in and out of it, to the oil pan, filter, oil cooler, etc.Do a Google Image search for "nascar dry sump system" to get some ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 Looking good so far! The thing on the lower right is the pump for the dry sump system. It should have a bunch of braided hoses running in and out of it, to the oil pan, filter, oil cooler, etc.Do a Google Image search for "nascar dry sump system" to get some ideas.Thanks Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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