garagepunk66 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Does anyone cast the factory cast-iron low-rise inline dual-quad intake for the 413 powered 59 - 62 Chrysler 300 Letter Series cars as shown? I could find lots of uses for a vintage setup like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espo Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 AMT made a kit of the '57 Chrysler 300c and that 413 engine had inline duel quads. The kit also has the correct air cleaners. Remember these cars had a very low hood line. The air filters made a 90 degree bend off the top of the carburetor into a large oval affair that housed the air filter. It is a very nicely done setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) The 57 300C had 392 Hemi wich ended production 1958 and that intake will not work for a 413 as it's different engine familys.Jo-Han had a 2 X 4 bbl intake and air cleaners for B/RB engines in their 62 and 63 Chrysler 300's but I don't think anyone cast them...I need one myself as I would like to do a correct looking 350 Golden Commando for "Christine". Edited December 11, 2016 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
426-Hemi Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) force is right the intake on the AMT '57 Chrysler 300C is in fact a 392 Hemi.... NOT a 413! So it wouldn't look right to use it, BUT also he's right about the Jo-Hans kits, but good luck finding those parts! I myself would love to get my hands on a Jo-Hans Sonoramic Commando to use else where (65 Chrysler 300 came with an engine with that intake!)Force, that intake you need for Christine, can be found in the following kits:Jo-Hans '62 Chrysler 300 Hard topJo-Hans '63 Chrysler 300 Edited December 11, 2016 by 426-Hemi Typing errors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 The Modelhaus did the long tube Sonoramic intake system in resin...but they have folded the business so it's too late to get it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garagepunk66 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 thanks for the replies fellas. yes, i'm aware of the kit parts in the JoHan Chrysler 300 kits of 62-3; however those are rare as stated and pretty inaccurate to boot, as it seems to represent a dual-plane. the real deal is single plane as shown. with a set of air cleaners and Fireball Modelworks AFB's , a manifold like this would very nicely back-date Revell's excellent 68-69 Charger 440 and AMT's great 71 Charger 440 engines for early-'60's hot rod duty and would look great under the hoods of the Moebius 65 Satellite and Lindberg 64 Dodges & Plymouths too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espo Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 thanks for the replies fellas. yes, i'm aware of the kit parts in the JoHan Chrysler 300 kits of 62-3; however those are rare as stated and pretty inaccurate to boot, as it seems to represent a dual-plane. the real deal is single plane as shown. with a set of air cleaners and Fireball Modelworks AFB's , a manifold like this would very nicely back-date Revell's excellent 68-69 Charger 440 and AMT's great 71 Charger 440 engines for early-'60's hot rod duty and would look great under the hoods of the Moebius 65 Satellite and Lindberg 64 Dodges & Plymouths too The others are correct about the engine design. The reason I mentioned the intake swap is because I used the Chrysler manifold for another project several years ago and I really didn't remember that the Chrysler engine was a Hemi, I'm not as knowledgeable as so many others on the Forum when it involves Chrysler products. I had used the intake and carbs. on a '58 Plymouth build years ago and it worked perfect in that application. I thought it might help you with what you were trying to accomplish. Good luck with your search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Force, that intake you need for Christine, can be found in the following kits:Jo-Hans '62 Chrysler 300 Hard topJo-Hans '63 Chrysler 300 I just ckd the intake in my 62 Chryser 300 kits. Its not even close to accurate of an actual 62 or 63 dual carb intake. IMO I think one could scratch build a more accurate piece using a modern tooled piece as a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
426-Hemi Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Bill,Yeah that was the early Jo-Hans stuff tho.. very "basic" compared to what we have for details now, I doubt you'll find ANYTHING remotely close to what that engine needs without doing a bunch of scratch building....BUT those ARE the intake you'd need, just much better detailing! (the air cleaners however for THAT intake are right, as the rear one has a center indent for the front one to fit, just as the real thing was! SO, if you'd scratch build that intake, make it fit THOSE air cleaners! Otherwise, the air cleaners won't be right either! EDIT:I bet if you took 2 of the Revell 440 4 barrel intakes, you could kitbash this single intake from 2 of those!!!! Had to edit my posting as it just popped into my head what would do the trick! Edited December 12, 2016 by 426-Hemi See Edit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The best way to recreate this manifold is by creating a cad stl. file and 3d printing it. The result should be something like this duel quad 318 poly manifold I have recently completed for my 318 A engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
426-Hemi Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The best way to recreate this manifold is by creating a cad stl. file and 3d printing it. The result should be something like this duel quad 318 poly manifold I have recently completed for my 318 A engine. Have you done a 318 Poly then? I'd like to see that! BUT the 318 Poly intake would be a bit different then a RB 413 or 426 Wedge dual plane intake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garagepunk66 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 The best way to recreate this manifold is by creating a cad stl. file and 3d printing it. The result should be something like this duel quad 318 poly manifold I have recently completed for my 318 A engine. yes, in absence of existing aftermarket this is my plan. i'm "between" desktop PC's right now, my old one which had my CAD and CAD/CAM programs on it had a failure in the power supply and was very old. i chose to purchase a used engineering-purposed workstation PC from the 'Bay and have spec'd out and purchased the Hard Drives and memory for it but have yet to have it built. anyone have some good measurements from any old 1:1 413, 426, or 440 manifold? would need...port spacing, overall length on each bank, bank offset ( i am presuming one port width would be accurate enough of a figure) bolt spacing, face angle (as measured from the horizontal plane), width at top of port flange at ports, bottom width at ports, etc., etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr68gts Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I can supply some of those dimensions. I have a tunnel ram for a B block. (383-400) The port spacing and everything is identical with exception to a bit wider for a RB block to make up the difference in deck height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaxion Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I sent this manifold to someone to resin cast way back . Whatever happened , I dunno ?? The proper Air Cleaners were in an AMT kit at one time . I have none and I seek these too . Not the individual low profile chromed affair most of the existance of these . Rather the two were joined . Both were secured to the Carbs with wing nuts . An exaggerated Oval shape at that . Thanx .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr68gts Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 You talking about the air cleaners in the 57? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaxion Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) Not quite , Similar enough to pass as the same . I did two internet searches . The above pic is a mid '60's . These , the Silver set in the foreground are what I am referring to . They interlock and one cannot be removed without the other . This style is what I remember working on '58 - '61 inline dual quad MoPars . Thanx .. Edited April 9, 2017 by dimaxion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 These are the air cleaners for the 58-62 Chrysler duel quad manifold set up. I am making a set for my 318 poly engine and will be able to adjust the height per application if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaxion Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Is the Hole in the sides of these have a nut/bolt to connect the pair ? I remember these did not come apart individually .. Wow , you've nailed these .. How soon please ? Thanx .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I have done a preliminary print to see how much detail it produces and also to test it for proper size. I'm planning on finalizing the 318 poly sometime in May. They will be ready then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaxion Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Are you planning the AIR Cleaners , Engine or both ?? Thanx .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Both. A whole, complete engine. Duel quad, 4 bbl and 2bbl complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaxion Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I am in .. How many or how much will I buy ? Living on Fixed Income is hard to predict future spending . Thanx .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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