Xingu Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 What I find interesting is that all of the cars I have seen so far, EXCEPT Mercedes, has the extension after the air intake above the cockpit. This must be for down force; perhaps in the turns. Mercedes had the field covered for the last few years, so the lack of this one body part may not have that much influence. But, it will be fun to watch who is right on this.By the second race either Mercedes will have the extension or the rest of the field will cut theirs off. Depends on the results from Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Mario Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Toro Rosso STR12 My favorite! Thanks for keeping us updated dated AFX. Agree the Toro Rosso looks nice but its second to my favorite- Ferrari. Love the Italian flag on the shark fin...maybe it will give them the extra oomph this year to catch Mercedes. Edited March 4, 2017 by Super Mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 I'm a die-hard Ferrari man too but you have to give props to Torro Rosso's livery. I have always preferred STR's livery over the mother ship's Red Bull. I was posting about testing but no one seemed to care so I deleted the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xingu Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I have a hard time getting into testing sessions. Seems like the same stuff every year. Some teams hold back, some teams hit the tire barriers, some teams have major mechanical woes right out the gate. I will start paying closer attention in a few weeks, when everything gets loaded up for the flight to Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim N Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 By the second race either Mercedes will have the extension or the rest of the field will cut theirs off. Depends on the results from Australia.Well said Michael! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Ross Brawn the new Technical Director wants to do away with the shark fins.http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/18820348/ross-brawn-keen-get-rid-shark-fin-engine-covers-f1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STYRENE-SURFER Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Force India is going pink. New livery here https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/3/force-india-unveil-startling-new-pink-livery-for-2017.html Race: Sun Mar 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
935k3 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 The one question coming out of pre-season testing is was Ferrari sandbagging? I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 McLaren approaches Mercedes over engine switch - report McLaren has made an exploratory approach to Mercedes about an engine supply, according to the BBC. McLaren endured a problematic pre-season with its Honda power unit, which was plagued with reliability issues and was lacking performance compared to its rivals. A frustrated Fernando Alonso, whose contract with McLaren expires at the end of 2017, labelled Honda the team's "only problem" coming into the new season and said it was missing 30km/h of speed on the straights alone. Honda has since downplayed its chances of rectifying its performance deficit in time for the Australian Grand Prix on March 26, leading to questions about Alonso's future and whether McLaren should look for a new supplier. According to the BBC, McLaren has approached the reigning world champions, who supplied them engines before they switched to Honda in 2015, about the possibility of a future deal. The report said McLaren is "evaluating options" in the event its relationship with Honda cannot be made to work. Earlier this week, team boss Eric Boullier conceded the team would be in a much better position with its old engine partner. Asked if the team would be winning "right now" with a Mercedes engine inside the MCL32, Boullier told Spain's AS newspaper: "Yes, we'd be winning again." A return to Mercedes would be ironic given former McLaren chief Ron Dennis' assertion that it is impossible in modern F1 to win a championship as a customer team, something which motivated the switch from Mercedes to Honda power in the first place. The reforming of that partnership has fallen well short of rekindling the iconic success of the late 1980s and early 1990s, finishing ninth in 2015 and sixth in 2016. The removal of the restrictive engine token system, which limited the amount of changes that could be made to an engine during an active campaign, was seen as the perfect opportunity for Honda to rise back to the top in 2017 after starting the V6 turbo era a year later than its rivals. However, F1 boss Yusuke Hasegawa has admitted he was surprised by the performance of rivals Mercedes and Ferrari in winter testing. McLaren is wary of another poor season impacting its ongoing search for a title sponsor, which executive director Zak Brown hopes to secure by 2018, but it is also mindful of Alonso's contract situation. Though the two-time world champion is not going to consider his future until the summer break, Boullier believes the only hope McLaren has of keeping the Spaniard is to deliver a competitive car to him this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STYRENE-SURFER Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I'm thinking (hoping) that Ferrari will surprise some. I am surprised how dull the Mercedes, Red Bull, Williams cars appeared at test.We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatW Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 McLaren approaches Mercedes over engine switch - report McLaren has made an exploratory approach to Mercedes about an engine supply, according to the BBC. McLaren endured a problematic pre-season with its Honda power unit, which was plagued with reliability issues and was lacking performance compared to its rivals. A frustrated Fernando Alonso, whose contract with McLaren expires at the end of 2017, labelled Honda the team's "only problem" coming into the new season and said it was missing 30km/h of speed on the straights alone. Honda has since downplayed its chances of rectifying its performance deficit in time for the Australian Grand Prix on March 26, leading to questions about Alonso's future and whether McLaren should look for a new supplier. According to the BBC, McLaren has approached the reigning world champions, who supplied them engines before they switched to Honda in 2015, about the possibility of a future deal. The report said McLaren is "evaluating options" in the event its relationship with Honda cannot be made to work. Earlier this week, team boss Eric Boullier conceded the team would be in a much better position with its old engine partner. Asked if the team would be winning "right now" with a Mercedes engine inside the MCL32, Boullier told Spain's AS newspaper: "Yes, we'd be winning again." A return to Mercedes would be ironic given former McLaren chief Ron Dennis' assertion that it is impossible in modern F1 to win a championship as a customer team, something which motivated the switch from Mercedes to Honda power in the first place. The reforming of that partnership has fallen well short of rekindling the iconic success of the late 1980s and early 1990s, finishing ninth in 2015 and sixth in 2016. The removal of the restrictive engine token system, which limited the amount of changes that could be made to an engine during an active campaign, was seen as the perfect opportunity for Honda to rise back to the top in 2017 after starting the V6 turbo era a year later than its rivals. However, F1 boss Yusuke Hasegawa has admitted he was surprised by the performance of rivals Mercedes and Ferrari in winter testing. McLaren is wary of another poor season impacting its ongoing search for a title sponsor, which executive director Zak Brown hopes to secure by 2018, but it is also mindful of Alonso's contract situation. Though the two-time world champion is not going to consider his future until the summer break, Boullier believes the only hope McLaren has of keeping the Spaniard is to deliver a competitive car to him this season. Yes we had heard that McLaren were thinking of talking to Mercedes about going back to them for reliable, faster engines. We live just 6 miles from Mercedes F1, 12 from Red Bull, 10 from Renault and 5 from Force India, in the F1 triangle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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