Jon Haigwood Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Picked up a AMT 57 Hardtop "Flashback kit and discovered it had the exhaust molded in. Is there another 57 kit that has separate exhaust and maybe more detail. From what I can see the Fireball Roberts kit maybe better. I want to build a 60's custom.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 51 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) The revell 57's have very nice chassis but they have a different wheelbase than the amt kit. The frame and floor are separate on the Revell kit.The Fireball 57 (revell too) is a race car only kit IIRC...the other revell 57s have stock parts.How important is it too lose the molded in exhaust..the rest of the amt chassis is pretty nice if I remember correctly.Good luck. Edited June 29, 2017 by mike 51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Revell kit # 85-4283 is likely the one you need, builds stock or racing, great start for custom & many of the AMT custom parts can be adapted. If you want a radio in your build, use the AMT dashboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 51 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) The revell 57 is a base model 2 door sedan.... customs tended to be 2 door hardtops like the AMT kit...but it's all up to you! Edited June 29, 2017 by mike 51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Haigwood Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Would the Revell Fireball Roberts floor pan and frame work with the AMT Flashback without excessive modifications ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) The revell 57 is a base model 2 door sedan.... customs tended to be 2 door hardtops like the AMT kit...but it's all up to you! back in the 50's they used both body styles.... Edited June 29, 2017 by thatz4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Would the Revell Fireball Roberts floor pan and frame work with the AMT Flashback without excessive modifications ? Revell floorpan is slightly longer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CometMan Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Would the Monogram Del Rio work? I realize that it's a wagon, but I believe it's a newer tooling, all the parts are very well done. Besides, when Tulio (Lovefordgalaxie) sees this thread he'll let us all know everything about every '57 Ford kit ever made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovefordgalaxie Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 There is no competition here, the AMT kit has the most accurate body, and represents the top of the line Fairlane 500 Club Victoria. Built both kits, and the AMT chassis only needs some love to look cool. Being addicted to the 1957 Ford cars I built multiples of both. The Revell frame can be used under the AMT body and interior. The wheelbase difference is almost zero in model form. On real 1:1 cars it was 2 inches. Fairlane Series was longer, 118 X 116 inches. AMT '57: 1957 Ford Fairlane 500 Club Victoria by CCCP Digital Studio, on Flickr Stock AMT chassis: 1957 Ford Fairlane 500 Club Victoria by CCCP Digital Studio, on Flickr Revell '57 Ford: 1957 Ford Custom Tudor by CCCP Digital Studio, on Flickr Stock Revell chassis: 1957 Ford Custom Tudor by CCCP Digital Studio, on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnslow Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Wow , both of those are really nice . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Haigwood Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Thanks for the info. I just bought this on Ebay and will be using it on the AMT kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Revell kit # 85-4283 is likely the one you need, builds stock or racing, great start for custom & many of the AMT custom parts can be adapted. If you want a radio in your build, use the AMT dashboardWon't work, without a TON of modifications, as Revell did the '57 Ford Custom Tudor sedan, which is significantly shorter, in both wheelbase and overall lengh, at least not without a bunch of modifying.Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunajammer Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Would the chassis of the AMT 58 Edsel Pacer be appropriate? Both the 57 Ford and 58 Edsel have 118" wheelbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Won't work, without a TON of modifications, as Revell did the '57 Ford Custom Tudor sedan, which is significantly shorter, in both wheelbase and overall lengh, at least not without a bunch of modifying.Artfloor pans are different a I mentioned earlier, but a lot of the custom parts can be made to work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Swapping the chassis around under the Revell and AMT '57 Fords isn't rocket science. This is the AMT '57 set up as a straight-axle gasser. This is the same AMT chassis under a Revell wagon I set up as a straight-axle gasser LONG before the Revell wagon gasser kit came out. Swapping the other way, Revell under AMT, isn't all that difficult either. Just measure and think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Haigwood Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 Swapping the chassis around under the Revell and AMT '57 Fords isn't rocket science. This is the AMT '57 set up as a straight-axle gasser. This is the same AMT chassis under a Revell wagon I set up as a straight-axle gasser LONG before the Revell wagon gasser kit came out. Swapping the other way, Revell under AMT, isn't all that difficult either. Just measure and think. Thanks, I figure it should be easier than trying to make the molded in exhaust disappear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Thanks, I figure it should be easier than trying to make the molded in exhaust disappear Definitely. That's why I hogged out the entire floor in the AMT chassis. A real PITA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel-Dan Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 The EDSEL Chassis Should workBUT Modern Tool vs Old tool.I have both so can tryBUT Digging out both kits to try!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Let us know how that works out. I removed the exhaust from the '57 chassis for my '58; took some doing but not impossible (before grinding it off I back-filled the areas that would leave voids with Bondic). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisc63 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Don't forget the AMT '60 Starliner as a possible donor - a very nice chassis, and the Fords didn't change much thru those years. Most people would never blink at the differences/lack of differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Haigwood Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 Don't forget the AMT '60 Starliner as a possible donor - a very nice chassis, and the Fords didn't change much thru those years. Most people would never blink at the differences/lack of differences.The Starliner WB is quite a bit longer and would need the overall length shortened. The Revell setup I picked up on ebay looks like it will work. So far it looks like I will need to shorten the back a smidge and the modify the trans tunnel so the AMT interior tube will fit. There is probably more that it will need but I haven't started this build yet, just gathering the parts that I will need. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisc63 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Small brain-fart on my part, the wheelbase did grow in that generation, but only by 3 inches, so only about 1/8 inch slice to shorten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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