LDO Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I've lost my copy. Can someone tell me if it has plans for a 1912 Rolls-Royce 40/50? I have read that they are in this book, but I have also read that they are only in the book "The Art Of The Automobile In Miniature". I would like to see plans for the chassis and drivetrain for this car. Thank you. Lee Owens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynehulsey Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) The Complete Car Modeller has plans for a 1909 40/50 roadster. Doesn't have much detail for the chassis and drivetrain. I think I have the other book, just need to search for it.Was putting the other book away and checked another set of shelves and found The Art of the Automobile in Miniature. It has a multiple page set of drawings for a 1912 40/50 London-Edinburgh Tourer. There's 4 or 5 pages of chassis, engine, driveline drawings. Edited July 16, 2017 by waynehulsey More info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDO Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 Well it's a bit of a bummer to find out it's not in the book I have (but can't find). I'm looking for info on the chassis and drivetrain for a scratchbuilding project of the 1914/1920 Rolls-Royce Armored Car. It is pretty much just a rebodied Silver Ghost. My main source for plans for this build is an article in the September 1989 Fine Scale Modeler. The article was about building one in 1/24 scale and used the old Heller 4.5 liter Blower Bentley as a chassis and drivetrain donor. I would rather have Silver Ghost reference info. The Silver Ghost chassis was also used for armored car tenders (resupply vehicles) and at least one military ambulance. A cool diorama would be a soldier being evacuated during resupply, and another soldier taking a picture three different Rolls-Royce military vehicles. Just getting started on the project. Turret is pretty much done. I had a cowl section and hood, but the geometry was not right so they didn't make the cut. It's in 1/12 scale, BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynehulsey Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Might want to take a look at this: https://sklep.gpm.pl/en/modelcard/tanks/1/25/rolls-royce-frames I have one with the laser cut frames and it looks really nice at least on the pages, haven't started it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDO Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 I checked out the link. From the few photos I've seen of Silver Ghost chassis/drivetrain, the paper model dimensions are way off. I'm going to look for a copy of Wingrove's The Art Of The Automobile In Miniature. Maybe order the old Franklin Mint diecast as well. One of them has the artillery wheels used on a Rolls-Royce ambulance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Maybe you could use a 1/35 kit for reference:https://www.ebay.com/i/292169943483?chn=ps&dispItem=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDO Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 I trust Gerald Wingrove more than I trust a model company. There have been plenty of kits that didn't get it right. Oddly enough, it's armor kits that I'm thinking of specifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I trust Gerald Wingrove more than I trust a model company. There have been plenty of kits that didn't get it right. Oddly enough, it's armor kits that I'm thinking of specifically.Contact him directly with your questions. He's always replied to me. http://www.geraldwingrove.com/Home_Page_/Home_Page.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Here's a Wingrove video on the 1912 RR. http://www.geraldwingrove.com/Rolls-Royce/R-R._Discussion.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDO Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 I'd like to watch that video, but that format is not supported on my computer or cell phone. I'll see if I can watch it on my work phone tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDO Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 I watched the video today on my work phone. Pretty cool. I also ordered a copy of Art Of The Automobile In Miniature, so I could get the Silver Ghost reference material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatboy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 If you are looking for the actual BOOKS,. try Alibris Used Books. AND, they have a special section for RARE books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This page has some nice plan drawings of a Silver Ghost chassis. It's what I used for my own Rolls armoured car project https://www.rrec.org.uk/Cars/How_A_Car_Works.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDO Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 The book arrived in the mail. I plan to build my model as a curbside, but some chassis detail is visible without turning the car over. I do want the model to look accurate; not like a model of a replica (like the 2 replicas used in the movie Lawrence of Arabia)Richard- I will download and print off those drawings. Thank you. Would love to see your RRAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Richard- I will download and print off those drawings. Thank you. Would love to see your RRAC. Here's where I got on it. THe idea was to use the Entex/Bandai Rolls "Balloon Car" Since I needed extra tired anyhow, I figured I try casting them in a more accurate colour, the one on the right has a little carbon black mix into the white RTV Scratchbuilt Vickers gun for the turret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDO Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 Where did you get dimensions for the Vickers? I would love to get my hands on that info. I stumbled across a gun shop in Austin that has several real Vickers machine guns, but they are off-limits, at least until I can get approval from the store owner to go back and measure and take pictures.I ordered a pair of 3D printed MGs, but the finish is a bit rough. Being one piece, cleanup would be tough. I'd use it as a pattern to scratchbuild my own, but I'm not sure the dimensions are correct.My turret is 6 layers of .030" Evergreen styrene wrapped around a 3" PVC pipe coupling. The coupling was not a straight cylinder. It was slightly bowed out at the top and bottom. It took a couple of hours with files and sandpaper to make it straight. It is thick as heck, but for me it was a way to get the right O.D. in a (relatively) short amount of time/minimal cash outlay. (I'm a plumber. I had the PVC part in my van) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I came across a plan view of a Vickers online, and a length, so I just worked out all the dimensions from that. The Vickers is basically a box with a cylinder attached, and all the details were all boxes and cylinders, so it was just a matter of puying the right styrene stock, cutting it up, and sticking it all together.The body and turret are .5mm styrene, which is almost the perfect scale thickness for the armour at 1/16. I tried to follow the construction of the original wherever possible, since everything was going to be pretty visible at that scale. I have a 3D modelling program to work out a pattern for the turret armour plates. I glued them together in a ring, and I cut an internal ring of thicker styrene to hold it in a circular shape. For the body, I took measurements off a plan I found in a WWI armour modelling website, scaled them to 1/16 in Photoshop, and measured and cut from those. Those plans were for a 1920s vintage AC. and since then, I've found some better references of WWI vintage ACs, including photos of what is possibly the only surviving WWI vintage Rolls AC, so I want to redo the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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