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One thing that really rattles my mood is automotive "experts" . Sometimes, it's just a plastic model car man.(opposed to a replica)  It's not going to the Smithsonian. They're only supposed to look cool. 

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One thing that really rattles my mood is automotive "experts" . Sometimes, it's just a plastic model car man.(opposed to a replica)  It's not going to the Smithsonian. They're only supposed to look cool. 

Some people CARE about scale fidelity and getting the details right.

You obviously don't, and that's OK with me if it's OK with you.

And what they're "supposed" to do is whatever the individual builder WANTS them to do.

Many modelers here value knowledgeable input from people who actually know what they're talking about... and they ASK QUESTIONS concerning real-car function and engineering.

Edited by Ace-Garageguy

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Some people CARE about scale fidelity and getting the details right.

You obviously don't, and that's OK with me if it's OK with you.

And what they're "supposed" to do is whatever the individual builder WANTS them to do.

Many modelers here value knowledgeable input from people who actually know what they're talking about... and they ASK QUESTIONS concerning real-car function and engineering.

and that's fine! I don't ask though. Worked for me now for 47 yrs of building. Got lots of expensive ,rare, incorrect model kits. They look really cool!

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The way I see it, there are several options for you to choose regarding your encounters with "experts" on this forum.

1. ignore them, after a while, they will get the hint (usually)

2. message them directly, tell them "thanks for the input but I am accepting this (thing) as it is and proceeding per my taste/style."

3. respond to them in the thread with the above message.

4. report them.

5. accept that they may have a valid point and that the input they provided may be useful to some other forum user (but ignore them anyway).

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The best way to play it is to NOT give advise unless its asked for, that way nobody gets their nickers in a twist. If you still must give an opinion or advise, maybe form it in the way of a question. I've noticed that under some posts it says, "comments welcome", or something to that nature. I always check that to see if its welcome before I start typing away. Then again, by posting pictures of your work for the whole world to see, you should expect that someone will eventually say something that you don't like, weather it be on purpose, or lost to cultural differences.

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Expert

X is an unknown quantity, and a spurt is a drip under pressure....lol

 

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Expert

X is an unknown quantity, and a spurt is a drip under pressure....lol

 

I thought in that old, old joke that the "ex" was a has-been. B)

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There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our... cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

—Isaac Asimov

Quoting from America's Cult of Ignorance by Tom Nichols

"These are dangerous times. Never have so many people had so much access to so much knowledge and yet have been so resistant to learning anything. In the United States and other developed nations, otherwise intelligent people denigrate ... achievement and reject the advice of experts. Not only do increasing numbers of lay people lack basic knowledge, they reject fundamental rules of evidence and refuse to learn how to make a logical argument. In doing so, they risk throwing away centuries of accumulated knowledge and undermining the practices and habits that allow us to develop new knowledge."

"This is more than a natural skepticism toward experts. I fear we are witnessing the death of the ideal of expertise itself, a Google-fueled, Wikipedia-based, blog-sodden collapse of any division between professionals and laypeople, students and teachers, knowers and wonderers—in other words, between those of any achievement in an area and those with none at all."

Edited by Ace-Garageguy

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I like to think of all my builds as resto-mods. I think they look accurate, and I think they look good in my display case. :)

 

And if others love to build and nail the details, that's cool too. I appreciate the skill, the knowledge, and the builds, even if it's not how I'd do it. Kind of like 1:1 cars. I can appreciate any modded car, because I recognize talent. So even though I'll never own a Japanese import car, I can respect the effort that goes into some of these. Same as with this goofy hobby. Because at the end of the day, it IS a hobby, and if it puts a smile on your face, then build them your way.

 

:)

 

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On this board, we have all kinds of modelers. I have been in the game for about 55 years myself, and I do not consider myself as a great builder. I know what a great model build is when I see one, but as of now, I lack the vision and the dexterity to do one of those. I do enjoy what I do, and I do the best I can. I have ruined enough models in my lifetime, that I can get a decent build now. Right now my attention span is so short, I have about 20 or so unfinished projects, 100 or so idea builds, and 1500 un-built kits to choose from. Personally, I like the opinions of the so called experts. I take a lot of them with a grain of salt. Also, I am happy to give any assistance to any builder who asks. Fortunately my late Father was a car nut like me, as well as a detail freak. I like detail, and I try to be as correct as I can with my builds. Not everyone is as fastidious over details, and that is fine too.

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On this board, we have all kinds of modelers. I have been in the game for about 55 years myself, and I do not consider myself as a great builder. I know what a great model build is when I see one, but as of now, I lack the vision and the dexterity to do one of those. I do enjoy what I do, and I do the best I can. I have ruined enough models in my lifetime, that I can get a decent build now. Right now my attention span is so short, I have about 20 or so unfinished projects, 100 or so idea builds, and 1500 un-built kits to choose from. Personally, I like the opinions of the so called experts. I take a lot of them with a grain of salt. Also, I am happy to give any assistance to any builder who asks. 

I like detail, and I try to be as correct as I can with my builds. Not everyone is as fastidious over details, and that is fine too.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

I build for me and me alone. If someone likes it great. If someone hates it , OK. Makes no difference for me either way . Want to offer praises or critiques , go right ahead . Im a big boy with pretty thick skin .

I might show pictures of something online . But entering contests with it isnt my intent when I start a build.

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On this board, we have all kinds of modelers. I have been in the game for about 55 years myself, and I do not consider myself as a great builder. I know what a great model build is when I see one, but as of now, I lack the vision and the dexterity to do one of those. I do enjoy what I do, and I do the best I can. I have ruined enough models in my lifetime, that I can get a decent build now. Right now my attention span is so short, I have about 20 or so unfinished projects, 100 or so idea builds, and 1500 un-built kits to choose from. Personally, I like the opinions of the so called experts. I take a lot of them with a grain of salt. Also, I am happy to give any assistance to any builder who asks. Fortunately my late Father was a car nut like me, as well as a detail freak. I like detail, and I try to be as correct as I can with my builds. Not everyone is as fastidious over details, and that is fine too.

Well, Ron I consider you one of this board's top builders, so there. B)

I have one foot in Model Car World and one in Model Airplane World. Things are a lot freer over here, I assure you. Over there, everything's about accuracy accuracy accuracy. A "custom" model airplane is almost unheard of.

Over here, we can choose what we want to do, and we don't have to lock ourselves into any one lane for all time, either. Today I might build a thoroughly researched, 100% accurate factory stock car. Tomorrow I might build the exact same kit as a rodded-up "Day 2,"  or a racer or wild custom that existed only in my own imagination. And it's all good.  Yay us! B)

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I really wish I wouldn't have started this thread, I just build models and have fun at it!

Edited by Lizz62

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One thing that really rattles my mood is automotive "experts" . Sometimes, it's just a plastic model car man.(opposed to a replica)  It's not going to the Smithsonian. They're only supposed to look cool. 

My models look cool. And they would also function properly if they were real cars. Because I care about such things. I build to a different standard than you.

Many modelers here value knowledgeable input from people who actually know what they're talking about... and they ASK QUESTIONS concerning real-car function and engineering.

I have relied upon Bill's 1:1 knowledge and expertise many times. And others like him. They are always there to help out. However, very infrequently do they offer info unsolicited. 

 

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Expert

X is an unknown quantity, and a spurt is a drip under pressure....lol

 

exactly

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I really wish I wouldn't have started this thread, I just build models and have fun at it!

I will lock it right here.

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