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Kit Karson's '29 Modified Roadster w/'29 Roadster Tires & '32 Deuce Sedan Wires


Kit Karson

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RRR and I have been discussing Quick Builds and came up with a couple of '29 Roadsters... "Quick" is not an easy word for me to digest!

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So, to that end, I will start on a pictorial for modifying the Revell '32 Sedan Wire Rims to fit the Revell '29 Roadster Tires...

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More to come... -KK

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I've been enjoying all of the KK and RRR projects on the work bench.  That's an excellent idea for these wire wheels.  I'm generally not a fan of wire wheels.  I had also written off the wheels in the '32 sedan because they looked a little heavy to my eye with the kit tires and there are so many other choices.  But your wheels look really good on these Firestone dirt track tires.  No doubt I will be using your tutorial and making a set of these.  Thank you for posting your instructions.

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I've never seen this rod before but it looks like a great choice for a model subject.  If you are not too hung up on duplicating it exactly, could I respectfully suggest losing the cowl lights ( I can't think of a good reason for them being there!) and swap out the four bars for hairpins so that you can reduce the visual barb of that lower four bar mount. I know four bars are far more sensible on a 1:1 but you won't be driving this anywhere so it would make sense to clean up an otherwise cool design.

Cheers

Alan

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I've never seen this rod before but it looks like a great choice for a model subject.  If you are not too hung up on duplicating it exactly, could I respectfully suggest losing the cowl lights ( I can't think of a good reason for them being there!) and swap out the four bars for hairpins so that you can reduce the visual barb of that lower four bar mount. I know four bars are far more sensible on a 1:1 but you won't be driving this anywhere so it would make sense to clean up an otherwise cool design.

Cheers

Alan

Good call on the extra chrome bars and lights... and, as much as I like louvers, like most of us... bottom rails- gone; upper back of the cab - also gone!

Take a look at Jeff Eischen's '29 Coupe and how clean it flows... now imagine it with a RPU cab. -KK

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Nice work on the wheels, brother! 

I've seen the modified you pictured in person at the GNRS last year. I thought then and still think that the rear wheels hang out way too far behind the body. 

Thanks, Brother Modeler!

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Good call, I totally agree!  Spring behind the axles would pull the QC forward just enough for the rear tires to just clear the back corners of the cab!! -KK

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I've been enjoying all of the KK and RRR projects on the work bench.  That's an excellent idea for these wire wheels.  I'm generally not a fan of wire wheels.  I had also written off the wheels in the '32 sedan because they looked a little heavy to my eye with the kit tires and there are so many other choices.  But your wheels look really good on these Firestone dirt track tires.  No doubt I will be using your tutorial and making a set of these.  Thank you for posting your instructions.

You are more than welcome, Brother Modeler! -KK

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Modeling and Geometry

Modeling is the art or activity of making three-dimensional models.  And, Geometry is all about the questions of shape, size, relative position of figures, and the properties of space.  And, geometrically speaking, a line is defined by two points on a plane and three points define a plane.

Now, how does this apply to our project?  As you may recall… we were modifying a set of rims from the Revell ’32 Sedan kit to fit the hollow tires from the Revell ’29 Roadster kit.

In the first installment, we added a .040 x .040 rib/ring all the way around the outer edge of both the inner and outer rim halves of the front wire rim from the Revell ’32 Sedan kit.

Thinking about simplifying the modifications to accommodate mounting the hollow tires to the wire rims, a math lesson from middle school came to mind: Three points define a plane.  So, instead of a continuous ring around the rim, we’ll place three evenly positioned .040 x .040 ribs around the rim to mate with the plane of the sidewall, inside and out. -KK

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Gotta love it when a plan comes together!

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Using the outer rim half from the rear wire wheel (Deeper) and the inner rim half from the front wire wheel (Narrower) to build the rear wire rim for the dirt track tire from the Revell '29 Roadster. Just to insure a solid bond I used the UV activated glue on each of the rib-lets. Trimmed off the excess .040 x .040 square rod and sanded down the sharp edges.  The new ribbed outer rim went into the tire a lot easier than the rim with the full rib! 

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There's one small improvement... the second was 3hree is better than 1ne!! (See the inserted outer rim from the back side of the tire.) 

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Slipped in the back half and aligned the crossed wires and am ecstatic with the final assembly!! 
The last 2wo will be much easier than the first wire rim!!! (Front with the full rib.) -KKWP_20171201_016.thumb.jpg.5cfbdc49af50279d961ed0692492ad78.jpg

2wo down and 2wo more to go... -KK

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Stay tuned! -KK

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Excellent!

It's cool to see you (and RRR) putting these often overlooked wheels to use. I've been wanting to put them on something over the years but just haven't managed to.

I must say, I sure wish Revell had done separate center caps so that they could easily be stripped and painted.

 

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WOW!  Honored I would be for another installment... Thanks for the interest and comments!

Little things I would have thought someone would ask about may have gone un-noticed.  For instance: two .040 x .040 pieces that have black tips.  If you look at the end of a "Square" piece of .040 x .040 you'll find a hair of a difference in the thickness from one parallel surface to the other.  I know this isn't rocket science, but one should error on the side of the narrowest margin.  With a piece twice as long as the two pieces with the black ends, use a sharpie to mark the middle with a 3/8 to 1/4 inch line on one side.  Using a #11 blade, cut it in the middle of the black mark.  These now become the base surface to build from.

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'32 Sedan front wire wheel Outer Half

On ‎12‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 9:49 PM, Dennis Lacy said:

Excellent!

It's cool to see you (and RRR) putting these often overlooked wheels to use. I've been wanting to put them on something over the years but just haven't managed to.

I must say, I sure wish Revell had done separate center caps so that they could easily be stripped and painted.

 

'32 Sedan front wire wheel Outer Half (yup! if the cap wasn't there, it would be nice for a couple of reasons).

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The first '32 Sedan front wire wheel Outer Half was wrapped completely around the rim and was set back .040 from the outer edge of the rim.

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Because the cap on the '32 Sedan front wire wheel Outer Half protrudes beyond the edge of the rim, the rim needs to be raised off of the base surface to clear the cap.

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With all the ribs trimmed and lightly sanded you can see the difference; first '32 Sedan front wire wheel with the full rib around both the Inner and Outer Halves and the three point ribs on the second '32 Sedan front wire wheel Inner and Outer Halves.

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Less time and effort with the same end result.  Imagine that: A better mouse trap!  -KK

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The next time you go to the Dentist, ask them what they do with their old and warn out dental Tools... My Dentist gives me a hand full every time I go see him!

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Take a spray can lid and slip a plastic medicine bottle in the center of the cap.  Or, if you have an old 35mm plastic canister, that'll work, too.

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Files, too.

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And, even the AC Glue... -KK

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'29 Roadster PU inspiration

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Snuck into the Kave and dug out the standard issue Revell '32 Frame and the latest Revell '29/'30 Roadster/Coupe Deuce Frame.  And, the Revell '29 Roadster PU Body for the initial mock up.

Pretty clear how much work there would be modifying the Revell '32 Frame for this project.

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Think the '29 Roadster PU would actually get a head start using the newer Revell '29/'30 Roadster/Coupe Deuce Frame. -KK

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The Ala Kart Roadster body in the background is also a contender for this build, too! -KK

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