Kit Karson Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 RRR and I have been discussing Quick Builds and came up with a couple of '29 Roadsters... "Quick" is not an easy word for me to digest! So, to that end, I will start on a pictorial for modifying the Revell '32 Sedan Wire Rims to fit the Revell '29 Roadster Tires... More to come... -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
502 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 All my builds start as quick builds. Then they gradually evolve into long term projects. I always enjoy seeing your builds, looking forward to seeing more of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKerry Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Kool!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Rodney Rat Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Nice...this should be killer!! -RRR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muncie Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I've been enjoying all of the KK and RRR projects on the work bench. That's an excellent idea for these wire wheels. I'm generally not a fan of wire wheels. I had also written off the wheels in the '32 sedan because they looked a little heavy to my eye with the kit tires and there are so many other choices. But your wheels look really good on these Firestone dirt track tires. No doubt I will be using your tutorial and making a set of these. Thank you for posting your instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxdude Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 This word "quick" I don't understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan barton Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I've never seen this rod before but it looks like a great choice for a model subject. If you are not too hung up on duplicating it exactly, could I respectfully suggest losing the cowl lights ( I can't think of a good reason for them being there!) and swap out the four bars for hairpins so that you can reduce the visual barb of that lower four bar mount. I know four bars are far more sensible on a 1:1 but you won't be driving this anywhere so it would make sense to clean up an otherwise cool design.CheersAlan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lacy Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Nice work on the wheels, brother! I've seen the modified you pictured in person at the GNRS last year. I thought then and still think that the rear wheels hang out way too far behind the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 One down... 3hree to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 I've never seen this rod before but it looks like a great choice for a model subject. If you are not too hung up on duplicating it exactly, could I respectfully suggest losing the cowl lights ( I can't think of a good reason for them being there!) and swap out the four bars for hairpins so that you can reduce the visual barb of that lower four bar mount. I know four bars are far more sensible on a 1:1 but you won't be driving this anywhere so it would make sense to clean up an otherwise cool design. Cheers Alan Good call on the extra chrome bars and lights... and, as much as I like louvers, like most of us... bottom rails- gone; upper back of the cab - also gone! Take a look at Jeff Eischen's '29 Coupe and how clean it flows... now imagine it with a RPU cab. -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 Nice work on the wheels, brother! I've seen the modified you pictured in person at the GNRS last year. I thought then and still think that the rear wheels hang out way too far behind the body. Thanks, Brother Modeler! Good call, I totally agree! Spring behind the axles would pull the QC forward just enough for the rear tires to just clear the back corners of the cab!! -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 I've been enjoying all of the KK and RRR projects on the work bench. That's an excellent idea for these wire wheels. I'm generally not a fan of wire wheels. I had also written off the wheels in the '32 sedan because they looked a little heavy to my eye with the kit tires and there are so many other choices. But your wheels look really good on these Firestone dirt track tires. No doubt I will be using your tutorial and making a set of these. Thank you for posting your instructions.You are more than welcome, Brother Modeler! -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Modeling and Geometry Modeling is the art or activity of making three-dimensional models. And, Geometry is all about the questions of shape, size, relative position of figures, and the properties of space. And, geometrically speaking, a line is defined by two points on a plane and three points define a plane. Now, how does this apply to our project? As you may recall… we were modifying a set of rims from the Revell ’32 Sedan kit to fit the hollow tires from the Revell ’29 Roadster kit. In the first installment, we added a .040 x .040 rib/ring all the way around the outer edge of both the inner and outer rim halves of the front wire rim from the Revell ’32 Sedan kit. Thinking about simplifying the modifications to accommodate mounting the hollow tires to the wire rims, a math lesson from middle school came to mind: Three points define a plane. So, instead of a continuous ring around the rim, we’ll place three evenly positioned .040 x .040 ribs around the rim to mate with the plane of the sidewall, inside and out. -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 Gotta love it when a plan comes together! Using the outer rim half from the rear wire wheel (Deeper) and the inner rim half from the front wire wheel (Narrower) to build the rear wire rim for the dirt track tire from the Revell '29 Roadster. Just to insure a solid bond I used the UV activated glue on each of the rib-lets. Trimmed off the excess .040 x .040 square rod and sanded down the sharp edges. The new ribbed outer rim went into the tire a lot easier than the rim with the full rib! There's one small improvement... the second was 3hree is better than 1ne!! (See the inserted outer rim from the back side of the tire.) Slipped in the back half and aligned the crossed wires and am ecstatic with the final assembly!! The last 2wo will be much easier than the first wire rim!!! (Front with the full rib.) -KK 2wo down and 2wo more to go... -KK Stay tuned! -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelbuilder Mark Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 cool project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 K2....watching this one too....looking forward to your next updates.....TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James2 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Very interesting, you have my attention .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lacy Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Excellent! It's cool to see you (and RRR) putting these often overlooked wheels to use. I've been wanting to put them on something over the years but just haven't managed to. I must say, I sure wish Revell had done separate center caps so that they could easily be stripped and painted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 WOW! Honored I would be for another installment... Thanks for the interest and comments! Little things I would have thought someone would ask about may have gone un-noticed. For instance: two .040 x .040 pieces that have black tips. If you look at the end of a "Square" piece of .040 x .040 you'll find a hair of a difference in the thickness from one parallel surface to the other. I know this isn't rocket science, but one should error on the side of the narrowest margin. With a piece twice as long as the two pieces with the black ends, use a sharpie to mark the middle with a 3/8 to 1/4 inch line on one side. Using a #11 blade, cut it in the middle of the black mark. These now become the base surface to build from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 '32 Sedan front wire wheel Outer Half On 12/3/2017 at 9:49 PM, Dennis Lacy said: Excellent! It's cool to see you (and RRR) putting these often overlooked wheels to use. I've been wanting to put them on something over the years but just haven't managed to. I must say, I sure wish Revell had done separate center caps so that they could easily be stripped and painted. '32 Sedan front wire wheel Outer Half (yup! if the cap wasn't there, it would be nice for a couple of reasons). The first '32 Sedan front wire wheel Outer Half was wrapped completely around the rim and was set back .040 from the outer edge of the rim. Because the cap on the '32 Sedan front wire wheel Outer Half protrudes beyond the edge of the rim, the rim needs to be raised off of the base surface to clear the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 With all the ribs trimmed and lightly sanded you can see the difference; first '32 Sedan front wire wheel with the full rib around both the Inner and Outer Halves and the three point ribs on the second '32 Sedan front wire wheel Inner and Outer Halves. Less time and effort with the same end result. Imagine that: A better mouse trap! -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joca Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Wow...amazing lessons ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 17 hours ago, Joca said: Wow...amazing lessons ! Joca, Thank you for follow ing along! Here is the completed set of '29 Tires and '32 Wires Used the Dental Tools to gently pull the sidewall over the ribs. -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 The next time you go to the Dentist, ask them what they do with their old and warn out dental Tools... My Dentist gives me a hand full every time I go see him! Take a spray can lid and slip a plastic medicine bottle in the center of the cap. Or, if you have an old 35mm plastic canister, that'll work, too. Files, too. And, even the AC Glue... -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 '29 Roadster PU inspiration Snuck into the Kave and dug out the standard issue Revell '32 Frame and the latest Revell '29/'30 Roadster/Coupe Deuce Frame. And, the Revell '29 Roadster PU Body for the initial mock up. Pretty clear how much work there would be modifying the Revell '32 Frame for this project. Think the '29 Roadster PU would actually get a head start using the newer Revell '29/'30 Roadster/Coupe Deuce Frame. -KK The Ala Kart Roadster body in the background is also a contender for this build, too! -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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