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The only clear pic I have of his Comet with the body up  is the 1966 car ,,which is obviously a different chassis

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Here's a pic from Fotki. The roll bar cage is closer to the Polar lights chassis than the Kenz $ Leslie kit rerelease (which is closer to the later '66 Comet chassis and roll cage) .

Don had a three post roll bar in his '66 Comet (as shown above) until the body blew off at high speed (grazed his helmet) and he then went to a four post roll bar. 

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Kenz & Leslie AMT (MPC) FC chassis (upper pic) vs. Polar lights FC chassis (lower pic). Although I did raise the Polar lights roll cage on mine, it seamed a little squashed to me in this pic.

 

 

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You guys are giving me Eliminator Fever.  Since I recently scored a nice restorable original annual AMT '67 Comet glue bomb, I just might convert my Comet funny car back to stock wheelbase and piece an E2 together myself.

And, of course, five minutes after I finish it, Round 2 will announce a kit. Y'all can thank me later. :lol:

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20 hours ago, Snake45 said:

You guys are giving me Eliminator Fever.  Since I recently scored a nice restorable original annual AMT '67 Comet glue bomb, I just might convert my Comet funny car back to stock wheelbase and piece an E2 together myself.

And, of course, five minutes after I finish it, Round 2 will announce a kit. Y'all can thank me later. :lol:

Hey Snake, here's one that I did years ago. Moved the wheelbase back to stock, added a Fireball 500 grill insert and used a Polar Lights chassis/roll cage with MPC tin and floorboard. Slixx decals.     

 

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6 hours ago, gtx6970 said:

I seem to remember reading from numerous sites. these Cougar kits are REALLY tough to build and will require quite a bit of patience on the builders part to get them done without hitting a wall .

I built the Beswick GTO and the chassis took TONS of clean up and moderate patience to build. I used the main floor board as the squaring tool to fixture the chassis until the glue dried on the cross member. I am on mobile on the road or I'd post a picture of how it turned out. With enough time and patience they do come out prettt decent and even though not completely 100% accurate for the model, they represent a Logghe chassis and that is what most people look for.

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1 hour ago, magicmustang said:

Hey Snake, here's one that I did years ago. Moved the wheelbase back to stock, added a Fireball 500 grill insert and used a Polar Lights chassis/roll bar with MPC tin and floorboard. Slixx decals.     

1967 Nicholson Cyclone FC Aug 09.jpg

Very nice! Thanks for the tip about the Fireball 500 grille insert. The original glue bomb '67 I bought is missing that, and I was disappointed to find that the Comet funny doesn't include it, so I actually need two of them. 

The more I think about this project, the more I'm thinking to just swap the annual glue bomb body onto a stock "new" kit, and then use the "new" body for my EII. 

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Well I'll have to get one of those '66 Fairlanes just for the retro-cool 1966 box. 

Probably a Polyglas Gasser, too. I've never owned any '62 Pontiac kit but am starting to get the urge. 

Now, what's up with the '69 GTX box? Doesn't look like any '69 AMT or MPC box. Are they going for a little bit of a JoHan vibe with that? 

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The 69' GTX is a Dirty Donny artwork box ................... kinda like the old Johan cartoon boxes !

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Was the Cougar Country F/C the predecessor to the Dyno Don version?

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52 minutes ago, Casey said:

Was this Cougar Country F/C the predecessor to the Dyno Don version?:

 

Possibly. I think one of the recent(ish) reissues was in those markings. I have the Car Craft magazine with a full-color spread on the real car, and have considered building it. 

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The boxart alone will sell me four of those kits. That GT/GTA box art is killer. I have three earlier boxing's and will still be getting one of those. And I'm ready for a PolyGlass Gasser.

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53 minutes ago, Casey said:

Was this Cougar Country F/C the predecessor to the Dyno Don version?:

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Cougar Country issue was first (clear body), then there was a Fast Eddie Schartman version (pearl yellow body), then the Dyno Don version.  Somewhere in there, the body was altered a bit (roof escape hatch added) which would presumably eliminate the possibility of seeing the clear body again.

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But they put the early logghe chassis inside the kits instead of the later one shown on the box. Same thing in the Dyno Don Cougar kit. Compare pics.  

Dyno Don Chassis.jpg

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1 hour ago, magicmustang said:

But they put the early logghe chassis inside the kits instead of the later one shown on the box. Same thing in the Dyno Don Cougar kit. Compare pics.  

Dyno Don Chassis.jpg

Most drag car kits (from all manufacturers) are compromises, and were compromises even back then.  The Cougar's chassis was also used in the first Color Me Gone Charger (in a slightly longer version), and was also used in the Untouchable GTO (though the 1:1 used a much different chassis).  The later kits that used this chassis likely weren't part of the original plan.  The Cougars at least had a dedicated, non-stock body.  MPC tended to choose funny cars based on what stock bodies they already had, and then combined those with whatever chassis they had that was the best fit with the needed body.  Why else did they make '68-'70 Coronet and '70-'71 Mercury Cyclone funny cars, when none existed in the real world?  The name of the game was to get the most use from the tooling, then as now.  More recent kits still follow the same plan; an example would be the Revell Pro Mod cars: '55 and '57 Chevies, a '55 Ford and a '58 Plymouth, all with one basic chassis and engine.

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On ‎12‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 4:47 PM, Mark said:

Most drag car kits (from all manufacturers) are compromises, and were compromises even back then.  The Cougar's chassis was also used in the first Color Me Gone Charger (in a slightly longer version), and was also used in the Untouchable GTO (though the 1:1 used a much different chassis).  The later kits that used this chassis likely weren't part of the original plan.  The Cougars at least had a dedicated, non-stock body.  MPC tended to choose funny cars based on what stock bodies they already had, and then combined those with whatever chassis they had that was the best fit with the needed body.  Why else did they make '68-'70 Coronet and '70-'71 Mercury Cyclone funny cars, when none existed in the real world?  The name of the game was to get the most use from the tooling, then as now.  More recent kits still follow the same plan; an example would be the Revell Pro Mod cars: '55 and '57 Chevies, a '55 Ford and a '58 Plymouth, all with one basic chassis and engine.

But they teased us with a certain chassis on the box art and a different one inside the box. The chassis shown on the box was used in the '68 Color Me Gone Charger funny car, so it was available. Lazy or careless? 

 

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1 hour ago, magicmustang said:

But they teased us with a certain chassis on the box art and a different one inside the box. The chassis shown on the box was used in the '68 Color Me Gone Charger funny car, so it was available. Lazy or careless? 

Dyno Don Cougar box.jpg

The '68 CMG would have been tooled long after the first version of the Cougar.  Even back then, when these things were selling in much bigger numbers, no manufacturer was going to dismantle a kit and swap chassis, to make it more correct.  99% of those who bought these back in the day wouldn't have noticed the difference, and the change would have not resulted in an increase in sales.  Why spend money when you aren't going to get any sort of bump in sales from it?  

With any sort of racing car kit (be it drag, Indy, NASCAR, sprint, or dirt track) generally the first version released is the most authentic to the 1:1 car.  But even it will be compromised if other versions are planned alongside it (or if major parts like the chassis are scheduled to be shared among multiple kits--which they often were).  Later versions might get some cosmetic changes like a different roll cage, headers, wheels, or fuel tanks to keep the chassis "in the ballpark".  The versions issued at the tail end would be beyond inaccurate.  As long as it looked "right", the manufacturers correctly guessed that the majority of buyers wouldn't be upset about the inaccuracies.

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7 hours ago, Mark said:

Cougar Country issue was first (clear body), then there was a Fast Eddie Schartman version (pearl yellow body), then the Dyno Don version.  Somewhere in there, the body was altered a bit (roof escape hatch added) which would presumably eliminate the possibility of seeing the clear body again.

Thanks. I found this topic after searching, too:

 

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3 hours ago, magicmustang said:

But they teased us with a certain chassis on the box art and a different one inside the box. The chassis shown on the box was used in the '68 Color Me Gone Charger funny car, so it was available. Lazy or careless? 

Dyno Don Cougar box.jpg

That chassis WAS used in the original issue MPC Candies and Hughes 'Cuda.

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Here's the chassis that's under the GTO. I also have a mint Charlie Allen F/C that when I can I will post pics of that chassis. May be a while though lol.

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17 hours ago, iBorg said:

That chassis WAS used in the original issue MPC Candies and Hughes 'Cuda.

Yep, they used whatever they wanted to.

I will probably not get a new release of the Dyno Don Cougar because I know from the past that the chassis, rollcage, and floorpan are not correct for that car, even though they show the right one on the box.

Even Epay makes you give a refund if what you ship is different from your pics!   

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On 12/26/2017 at 12:21 PM, Mark said:

Cougar Country issue was first (clear body), then there was a Fast Eddie Schartman version (pearl yellow body), then the Dyno Don version.  Somewhere in there, the body was altered a bit (roof escape hatch added) which would presumably eliminate the possibility of seeing the clear body again.

Yes - I built the Eddie Schartman version when it came out and I distinctly remembering it having the roof hatch.

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