Monty Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I hate promo-type chassis plates like those on the '69 Riviera, so I was wondering if the '66 chassis could be made to work. Assuming it can be made to work, how accurate will the result be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crankenstien Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 their virtually the same kit my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crankenstien Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 something for more detail if that's what your going after id say find a newer revel chevelle kit think they are the same wheels base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crankenstien Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 like the 65/66 Malibu hardtop think the wagon and elco are a bit longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crankenstien Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 third option the prostreet 70 superbee those are as close as it it gets for drop on chassis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, Crankenstien said: something for more detail if that's what your going after id say find a newer revel chevelle kit think they are the same wheels base Don't both 1:1 cars have an X-type chassis? I'm not sure the Chevelle unit would be the best choice if accuracy matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crankenstien Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 well all was a 59/60 chevy same frame might have do some saw work but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crankenstien Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 well except that the amt 59 elco is the same scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Monty said: I hate promo-type chassis plates like those on the '69 Riviera, so I was wondering if the '66 chassis could be made to work. Assuming it can be made to work, how accurate will the result be? Monty, I used to have a 1/1 '69 Riv, I'm very familiar with them. Favorite car I've owned Aside from the engine, the '66 chassis and underhood area is correct for a '69. ,,Any Riv from '66 to '70 actually. You'll need the 430 from the '69 kit , the nailhead in the '66 was the last year for that engine. You should also add some headlights under the hood if you're going that far ,, and please ,, no amber on the front signals and cornering lights. LOL Yes, the Chevelle chassis is completely wrong for a 'Riv. Anything else about a '69 Riv, please just ask. Edited January 9, 2018 by Can-Con Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ditto what Steve said. Rivieras used the same chassis '66-70. An X-Ray Look At GM's X-Frame (1957-1970) '69 Riviera frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Can-Con said: You'll need the 430 from the '69 kit , the nailhead in the '66 was the last year for that engine. You should also add some headlights under the hood if you're going that far ,, and please ,, no amber on the front signals and cornering lights. LOL Anything else about a '69 Riv, please just ask. Glad I asked. I forgot about the change from the nailhead series to the later series. In your opinion, is this the best 1/25 Buick engine I can stick in the '69? As far as detailing goes, I rely heavily on Google pictures. No amber if GM didn't put it there. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Monty said: Glad I asked. I forgot about the change from the nailhead series to the later series. In your opinion, is this the best 1/25 Buick engine I can stick in the '69? As far as detailing goes, I rely heavily on Google pictures. No amber if GM didn't put it there. Thanks again! It's the ONLY 430 out there. The valve covers are dead on but the rest?,, maybe not so much. The 455 in the Monogram '70 GSX is really good if you don't mind the scale difference. But you'd have to sand the ribs off the valve covers and add new ones. Here's a couple shots to start you off,, ,,,, and a gratuitous pic of my old Riv. Unfortunatly this old Kodak 110 pic is the only one I have left of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 Thanks for the pics. Stuff like this is immensely helpful for nailing down all the engine bay details. It looks like setting up the headlight assemblies will be one of the biggest challenges to resolve. Love the pic of that Riviera too. My first car was a '72 Skylark that looked almost exactly like this, but without the sunroof option. This may sound like a lame question, but have you found a hobby paint that's really close to Buick engine red? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Testors has a darker red in thier bottle paints that seems pretty close to me. I think it's #1104. At least that's what the unfaded areas on the valve covers of my '68 Electra look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) On a semi-related note, how similar are the X-frames from both '63 and '66 Rivieras? I have an original AMT '63 with the promo style chassis (bad), and would like to use the modern-era AMT '66 Riviera chassis, suspension, and engine (good) if there aren't any major obstacles to doing just that. *edit* Hmm, the wheelbase grew from 117" to 119" between '63 and '66...not considering that a major obstacle. Edited November 7, 2018 by Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Casey said: On a semi-related note, how similar are the X-frames from both '63 and '66 Rivieras? I have an original AMT '63 with the promo style chassis (bad), and would like to use the modern-era AMT '66 Riviera chassis, suspension, and engine (good) if there aren't any major obstacles to doing just that. *edit* Hmm, the wheelbase grew from 117" to 119" between '63 and '66...not considering that a major obstacle. Casey I have been giving this a thought for several years. Not sure if have the skill or patients. Not the same but light years ahead of the old school bottom plate style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Casey said: On a semi-related note, how similar are the X-frames from both '63 and '66 Rivieras? I have an original AMT '63 with the promo style chassis (bad), and would like to use the modern-era AMT '66 Riviera chassis, suspension, and engine (good) if there aren't any major obstacles to doing just that. *edit* Hmm, the wheelbase grew from 117" to 119" between '63 and '66...not considering that a major obstacle. Casey, the '66 kit suspension compares well with these pics I found of a stock '63. The floor pans look a little bit different and of coarse the gas tank area is completely different. It should be a pretty easy job to swap out the tank area. Might be able to fudge the rear suspension placement enough to make up for the 2 scale inch difference. And here's a link to the web page with more pics. https://americanclassicsandhotrods.com/vehicles/128/1963-buick-riviera Edited November 7, 2018 by Can-Con Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgefever Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Brave man getting under there to photograph it. I'd want the lift arms under the frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) On 11/7/2018 at 4:31 PM, Can-Con said: Casey, the '66 kit suspension compares well with these pics I found of a stock '63. The floor pans look a little bit different and of coarse the gas tank area is completely different. It should be a pretty easy job to swap out the tank area. Might be able to fudge the rear suspension placement enough to make up for the 2 scale inch difference. Thanks, Steve. Here's an underside shot of both the AMT '63 and '66 Rivieras, showing the fuel tank difference Steve mentioned: Edited November 10, 2018 by Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcarfan27 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 What about the chassis' from the 62 Chevy or 62 Pontiac to fit under the 63-65 Rivys. Same generation, different GM division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) The '62 Chevy may work with some slight tweaking with spare tire and gas tank placement redoing. The '62 Pontiac is totally different being that it's a perimeter frame, sharing that with Oldsmobile of the same period. Edited November 11, 2018 by MrObsessive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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