Oldmopars Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I am looking to build a replica of my 1984 Chevy 1 ton 4x4 service truck (ex Fire Truck). I plan to scratch built the bed and I am using the AMT Wrecker and the 1984 Chevy(Fall Guy truck) to get the parts needed to look right. However, I need a 454. I have looked at Hobbylinc and I can find several with a 409, and tons with a Small block(ie 350 or 327) but no 454(or 366) Big Blocks. Can anyone suggest a kit that would have a good 454? I don't care if it has a blower, but as close to stock as possible would be nice, however I will work with what I can get. I just don't want a tiny small block in my truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
426 pack Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 The amt 1970 Monteny Carlo. It’s got a 454 and an automatic trans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Irwin Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 The Revell Yenko and Pace car 69 Camaro kits have a nice 4 barrel 427, externally the same as a 454. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Good heavens, Big Block Chevy engines aren't rare at all in scale. The one in the Revell Yenko Camaro, a '69 L72 427, is pretty much stock and might be close to your '84 454, though I really have no idea what the latter looks like. Others might have better suggestions. But they're quite common, in several different iterations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 What about the 454SS PickUp kits, should have a Turbo 400 behind it and then you would just need to swap the TBI for a Carb, and would probably be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 The AMT 1968 El Camino and 1970 Monte Carlo SS have excellent Mark IV engines with TH-400 trans . If you want for a Mark IV / 4 speed combo , the Revell kits have beautiful pieces ; the AMT 1970 Baldwin-Motion Phase III Camaro also has a nice 454 (albeit , it's got the Tarantula intake manifold , Cal Customs valve covers , headers , Holley 3 Bbl , and 'Fly Eye' air cleaner ) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 ... then there's the AMT C-1500 SS-454 pickup (1990 ?) which has a Vortec-updated 454 with a 700-R4 trans . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) As far as I know no SS 454 Pickup came with 700R4 (later named 4L60-4L60-E), the 1990 model was only available with 3-speed TH 400 and the stronger 4-speed 4L80-E became available for the 1991 model year. Edited January 13, 2018 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldawg142 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) ........ Edited May 9, 2018 by dieseldawg142 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I meant stronger than the 700R4/4L60...the 400 is strong enough. The 700R4 was too weak for the 454 torque, that's why they used the 400 the first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 The SS 454 engine looks undersized to me. It is as if the modified they used the small block with new heads. Since it is packed away, I can't dig it out to check with other BBC's. An 84 would, IIRC, use a TH 400. There are a lot of BBC engines in kits. The big consideration is finding the one with the closest intake setup and accessory belts to match your 84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espo Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 All have offered good suggestions for an engine source. I think the now available reissued Mont Carlo would offer the easiest and most accurate 454 for your application. Depending on the accuracy you're going for there is some small differences between all of the mentioned engines. Any or all of these engines will "work" but there are small details that differentiate them from the OEM engine in your truck. The 454 in a truck application used the low profile intake manifold used in passenger cars such as the Mont Carlo and most other passenger cars equipped with the 454 engine. The exceptions would be high performance engines such as the Chevelles and Novas of that time. The H.O. engine could be used and a low profile intake substituted and a carb. that would look like a Quadrajet and use the standard cast iron exhaust manifolds. This all depends on what you have available as far as extra parts and if your truck was possibly modified in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldawg142 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) ........ Edited May 9, 2018 by dieseldawg142 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldmopars Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Thank you everyone for the replies. I will check out the Monte Carlo. My K30 has the stock (17K original miles) 454 with THM400 and a 203 or 205, the cast iron one. I did fine that BNL resin has a 454 and they also have the Dana 60s and the transfer case I need. I think I may get the Monte Carlo for the engine and use the rest for another project, would be about the same price as just the engine. BNL also has the dually wheels that I need. BTW the Revell Chevy Wrecker is total garbage. The engine is molded as part of the cab, the cab has the visor molded in, the hole is cut for a sun roof, but a crappy plug with lights is in the kit. The chassis is molded with the other half of the engine in it as well as the exhaust. The wheels are junk, the frame is not right and they put a solid 2wd axle in the front, GM never used on in a 1 ton truck, only the larger trucks. On the whole, the kit is really bad and not worth the time or money. The Amt Deserter however is a great kit and I may buy more in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldawg142 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) .......... Edited May 9, 2018 by dieseldawg142 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I have the 396 from the 68 El Camino I will not be using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldmopars Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 15 hours ago, junkyardjeff said: I have the 396 from the 68 El Camino I will not be using. I would interested in it, let me know what you want for it, trade or cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 PM me your address and I will get it out to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 That 396 has a 400 trans too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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