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Wheel I.D. Help, Please

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So many unidentified wheels. -_- Anybody care to I.D. which kit(s) these wheels are originally from?:

#1: 1/25 AMT '63 & '64 Buick Riviera, '63 Chrysler Imperial HT - Custom Wheels

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#2 - AMT '67 Thunderbird - Custom Wheel

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#3 - 1/25 Monogram '67 Corvette 427 Roadster

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#4 - Aurora Aurora Jaguar XK-E

#5 - JO-HAN '60s Chrysler kits - Custom WheelWP_20180215_054.jpg.826c34d5a8f60132b767d55f6a091211.jpg

 

#5: - Revell '65 Chevelle SS Z-16 wheel cover

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#6:  AMT '64 Chevelle or El Camino

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#7: JO-HAN  '77-'79 Cadillac:

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#8: Custom wheel from AMT '65 & '66 Barracuda

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#9: MPC '57/'60 Corvette

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#3 appears to be 67 corvette wheels. The turbine style that GM called a knock off wheel.

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#5 is the custom wire wheel from some of the early to mid 60s Johan Chrysler kits.

I at least know that they came in the '64 Chrysler 300 kit.

I used them on my '64.

 

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#1 and #2 are custom wheels from AMT kits.  I'm not positive, but #1 is probably from an Imperial, or maybe a '63 or '64 Riviera.  For #2, I'm leaning towards '67 or '68 Thunderbird.

#3, I'm thinking Monogram snap '82 Corvette.

#4 looks like Aurora Jag XK-E.  #5 is Jo-Han; those came in a cornucopia of kits, most recently the '68 Chrysler reissue (they were in the '68 annual too).

#5 is probably Revell.  No AMT kit I'm aware of had those.

#6 is AMT Chevelle: not the snap hardtop which was an SS, but rather the wagon or El Camino.

#7 is Jo-Han Cadillac, they did promos and snap kits '77-'79.  I'm not aware of any changes in the wheels year to year, but maybe I'm not paying attention.

#8 is a custom wheel from an AMT Barracuda kit.  '65 definitely, maybe '66 also.

#9 is a custom wheel from an MPC '57/'60 Corvette.  Those shared the knockoff center with the stock wheel covers.  

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I'm pretty sure #1 is from the AMT '64 Riviera

#2 is from the AMT '63 Riviera, maybe others as well

#8 is also in the AMT '66 Barracuda as Mark stated

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Thanks all. I updated each wheel with the source kit. 

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Update...#1 is definitely from the '63 Imperial HT (probably the '64 Riv too as stated previously) 

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Updated. Anybody care to take a crack at these four Terra Thrust/American Racing Lemans style wheels? I'm pretty sure #1, the wheel with the rim of melty green plastic if the JO-HAN '63(?) Fury mentioned in another topic semi-recently. #3 is rather awful with molded closed "windows", but I think both #3 and #4 are actually Lemans, not Terra Thrust wheels.

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#1:

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#2:

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#3:

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#4:

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#1 looks familiar but I can't place it; I'm thinking AMT

#2 is an AMT Terra-thrust from the'64 Galaxie, and probably other AMT kits of that era.

#3 is found in the re-issued Johan '63 Fury, not sure what the original annual contained. 

#4...? 

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The far left one looks larger than the next one over; Monogram '58 T-Bird, maybe?

Second one might be AMT '64 Galaxie, possibly '64 LeMans convertible.  Might be in the '64 GTO hardtop too, but I can't remember tripping over one of those recently.

Third one over is definitely Jo-Han.  It was in the reissue '63 Plymouth (annual used something else).  But, Jo-Han re-used nearly everything.  I believe that wheel came in a couple of Sixties AMC Ambassador annual kits back in the day.

The one on the right might be Revell or Monogram...looks bigger than an AMT wheel.

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3 minutes ago, Mark said:

The far left one looks larger than the next one over; Monogram '58 T-Bird, maybe?

Second one might be AMT '64 Galaxie, possibly '64 LeMans convertible.  Might be in the '64 GTO hardtop too, but I can't remember tripping over one of those recently.

Third one over is definitely Jo-Han.  It was in the reissue '63 Plymouth (annual used something else).  But, Jo-Han re-used nearly everything.  I believe that wheel came in a couple of Sixties AMC Ambassador annual kits back in the day.

The one on the right might be Revell or Monogram...looks bigger than an AMT wheel.

#1 looks so close to the AMT Model T/Fruitwagon etc wheels that I'm thinking it must be AMT.  The Monogram T-Bird wheels are more shallow and not as well-detailed.

Yes, #2 was in the '64 GTO too (don't know about the Lemans convertible).     

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21 hours ago, pack rat said:

#1 looks so close to the AMT Model T/Fruitwagon etc wheels that I'm thinking it must be AMT. 

The Fruitwagon wheels seem to have a softer edge on the spokes, but maybe it's just thicker undercoat? 

I took another pic of the wheels I have, and there appears to be a complete set of four (two front and two rear), the rear wheel shown in my original picture as #2 with no center spindle nut cap. The center cap on the green melty wheel is a little bit shorter than the other two (easiest to compare to the bottom right wheel) and the spokes appear to be a bit thinner than the other four, too, so I'll look through some eBay listings tonight and see if I can narrow it down. 

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Here are a few "mag" wheels if anyone wishes to try I.D.ing these, too.

#1: has an unusual taper to it, but has textured spokes like those found in the Monogram Shelby Mustang GT350-R, Revell '32 Ford 3W and Sedan, Revell/Monogram road racing Corvettes (Owens Corning, etc.), but they don't look familiar, not do they look like they'd fit the Goodyear Blue Streak tires those kits included.

#2: Looks MPC-ish, but I think it's too deep to be a Little Red Express wheel?

#3: No idea, but no lug nuts

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1 hour ago, Casey said:

The Fruitwagon wheels seem to have a softer edge on the spokes, but maybe it's just thicker undercoat? 

I took another pic of the wheels I have, and there appears to be a complete set of four (two front and two rear), the rear wheel shown in my original picture as #2 with no center spindle nut cap. The center cap on the green melty wheel is a little bit shorter than the other two (easiest to compare to the bottom right wheel) and the spokes appear to be a bit thinner than the other four, too, so I'll look through some eBay listings tonight and see if I can narrow it down. 

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These Winfield Terra-Thrusts were also in the AMT '64 Vette roadster, IIRC. So if they don't look exactly like the '25 T wheels, maybe they're from that.

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On 2/16/2018 at 3:08 PM, Snake45 said:

These Winfield Terra-Thrusts were also in the AMT '64 Vette roadster, IIRC. So if they don't look exactly like the '25 T wheels, maybe they're from that.

Yep, I'm going to do some online searching to see if I can see which other kits they might've been include with, starting with those you, Mark, and Mike mentioned.

Revell '57 custom Ranchero:

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On 2/17/2018 at 2:09 PM, Casey said:

I may have asked about this one previously, but it's such an odd lilac color. :blink: Kind of a neat looking almost-full Moon style wheel cover, though:

Revell '57 custom Ranchero Moon disc with the chrome stripped.

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On 2/19/2018 at 7:06 AM, ChrisBcritter said:

Revell '57 custom Ranchero Moon disc with the chrome stripped.

*Not from the original issue*

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Strange... they must have been retooled at some point. Here's what I was thinking of; it's an Advent issue similar to what I had:

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Same thing, previous '70s issue:

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On 2/16/2018 at 1:32 PM, Casey said:

Here are a few "mag" wheels if anyone wishes to try I.D.ing these, too.

#1: has an unusual taper to it, but has textured spokes like those found in the Monogram Shelby Mustang GT350-R, Revell '32 Ford 3W and Sedan, Revell/Monogram road racing Corvettes (Owens Corning, etc.), but they don't look familiar, not do they look like they'd fit the Goodyear Blue Streak tires those kits included.

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Don't have a kit to check, but think this is a rear wheel from the Revell 1968 Firebird.

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5 hours ago, ChrisBcritter said:

Strange... they must have been retooled at some point. Here's what I was thinking of; it's an Advent issue similar to what I had:

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Same thing, previous '70s issue:

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They were reworked for the Seventies issue.  The original issue had plastic tires, the Seventies issues of the Ranchero and '59 Skyliner used vinyl tires.

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Thanks, all. Mysteries solved. :)

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On 2/16/2018 at 2:32 PM, Casey said:

Here are a few "mag" wheels if anyone wishes to try I.D.ing these, too.

#1: has an unusual taper to it, but has textured spokes like those found in the Monogram Shelby Mustang GT350-R, Revell '32 Ford 3W and Sedan, Revell/Monogram road racing Corvettes (Owens Corning, etc.), but they don't look familiar, not do they look like they'd fit the Goodyear Blue Streak tires those kits included.

#2: Looks MPC-ish, but I think it's too deep to be a Little Red Express wheel?

#3: No idea, but no lug nuts

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The six lug wheel with the red painted lug nuts looks like the rear wheels out of the old AMT Modified kits of '30's and '40's cars. I remember buying a combo kit back in the '70's that included a Ford pickup, trailer and IIRC a '40 Ford modified race car and it had wheels very similar. Being on a race car probably explains the 6 lugs.

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Third from the left (slotted wheel, no lug detail) is Jo-Han, from either the Maverick or Comet pro stock kits.  The Schartman Maverick had Motor Wheel Spyders, but the Schartman Comet, Nicholson Maverick, and the generic cars all had the slotted wheels. 

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Good info, Mark, thanks. :) 

I found this set on eBay and they arrived today, but I have no idea which kit(s) they might've originally been included with. I'm guessing AMT or MPC based on the mounting stub on the backside? 

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