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1 hour ago, heyjohnxx said:

I, for one, would like to see more pictures of the forklift. I have been accused of having a forklift fetish because of my 20 or so 1/25 lift trucks.

Then you must have that CAT.

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49 minutes ago, Speedfreak said:

Nice thread. What year(s) and what models did Ford use the 406 with 3X2 barrels? Looks like something maybe for NASCAR?

Gene, the only one I ever saw was in a 1962 Galaxie.

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1958 Plymouth 350. OHV V8, 350 cu.in./305 hp. I've read comments that this representation (AMT I believe) of the 58 Plymouth engine isn't very accurate. Some flaws have been pointed out which will be rectified.


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On 7/9/2018 at 5:26 PM, Speedfreak said:

Nice thread. What year(s) and what models did Ford use the 406 with 3X2 barrels? Looks like something maybe for NASCAR?

406 engine configurations and applications[edit]

  • 4V, 11.4:1 — 385 horsepower (287 kW) at 5800 rpm and 444 lb⋅ft (602 N⋅m) at 3400 rpm
    • 1962–1963 Ford
    • 1963 Mercury
  • 3x2V, 11.4:1 — 405 horsepower (302 kW) at 5800 rpm and 448 lb⋅ft (607 N⋅m) at 3500 rpm
    • 1962 Ford
  • 3x2V, 12.1:1 — 405 horsepower (302 kW) at 5800 rpm and 448 lb⋅ft (607 N⋅m) at 3500 rpm
    • 1963 Ford, Mercury
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On 7/10/2018 at 2:23 PM, landman said:

1956 Plymouth 361. OHV V8, 361 cu.in./305 hp. I've read comments that this representation (AMT I believe) of the 58 Plymouth engine isn't very accurate.

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This is supposed to be a Chrysler B block engine. It was the first v-8 wedge Chrysler made and was not available until the 1958 Plymouth, Dodge and DeSoto models used it. The 58 Plymouth was the 350 model. Dodge and DeSoto used the 361. Plymouth used the 361 in 59. This engine you built here has 2 flaws. It has an A block intake manifold which puts the distributor in the back instead of the front and the oil filter should be5b4688bcaeeb7_Screenshotfrom2018-07-1118-45-27.png.eb69166017eaca0641becf261654b9e5.png horizontal instead of vertical. The 58 Plymouth sold by Walmart has the proper intake and is a proper representation of the B block.  

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1 hour ago, my66s55 said:

This is supposed to be a Chrysler B block engine. It was the first v-8 wedge Chrysler made and was not available until the 1958 Plymouth, Dodge and DeSoto models used it. The 58 Plymouth was the 350 model. Dodge and DeSoto used the 361. Plymouth used the 361 in 59. This engine you built here has 2 flaws. It has an A block intake manifold which puts the distributor in the back instead of the front and the oil filter should be5b4688bcaeeb7_Screenshotfrom2018-07-1118-45-27.png.eb69166017eaca0641becf261654b9e5.png horizontal instead of vertical. The 58 Plymouth sold by Walmart has the proper intake and is a proper representation of the B block.  

Thanks for pointing that out. I'll rectify that. As for the year, it must be a typo, it was supposed to read 58. I think that engine is from the Christine kit. I bought it on eBay as a 58 Plymouth. So flip the manifold, oil filter and call it 350 and I should be OK, right?

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18 hours ago, my66s55 said:

This is supposed to be a Chrysler B block engine. It was the first v-8 wedge Chrysler made and was not available until the 1958 Plymouth, Dodge and DeSoto models used it. The 58 Plymouth was the 350 model. Dodge and DeSoto used the 361. Plymouth used the 361 in 59. This engine you built here has 2 flaws. It has an A block intake manifold which puts the distributor in the back instead of the front and the oil filter should be5b4688bcaeeb7_Screenshotfrom2018-07-1118-45-27.png.eb69166017eaca0641becf261654b9e5.png horizontal instead of vertical. The 58 Plymouth sold by Walmart has the proper intake and is a proper representation of the B block.  

I do so appreciate the information concerning the first Wedge head Mopar Engines . The A Block was a poly (semi poly spherical) head , the Valve covers had cures (3) along the bottoms for the Valve Trains . These Engines , the Polys , were offered in the Plymouth line in 1957 . i cannot find the details about these , past Rear location the Distributor . Then , I cannot find which side of the Cam? IIRC , Dodge and De Soto offered these with the Hemi in the lineup since 1955 . I think the Hemi was not available for the Dodge and De Soto beyond 1956 . This illustration shows the Oil Filter in the Horizontal Position . So , in the sceme of things ?? Where does the B Block 318 differ to distinguish itself . Oil Filter on the Left side of the Block and Starter on Right side ? Rear located distributor  , again , which side of the Cam ? Was the first run (MY) of 318's a Ploy Head ? I know the Later Light Casting 273 - 318 - 340 - 360 Engine family have  Rear located distributors with right side of Can Orientation . Tye 318 , with the Left side Oil Filter have a little Brace attached to the Oil Filter Housing . These disappeared during Oil Changes . Located in Chassis nudging he Steering Box , it made the task more difficult . Tye 340 - 360 had aright rear block location angled to clear the Right side Torsion bars in the E Bodies ect. Correct me where I am wrong please ?   Thanx ..

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These may help you some.

https://www.allpar.com/mopar/a-engines.html

https://www.allpar.com/mopar/poly.html

http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/dodge-c5.htm

A block poly engines first appeared in 1956. The distributor is is mounted behind the intake and to the right of the cam. The oil filter was on the rear left side. 

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