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Here a comparision of turned aluminium rims. 
The rim in the middle of the pictures is from Doug Wagner from Keystone Aluminum Model Miniatures. He is selling is stuff via Facebook. They are currently fro sale for 10$ per piece.
The other rims are from Michael Cherry from MCA. . The left one is the American ALCO rim, while the right one is the European ALCOA rim. YOu have to ask Michael for the actual price

All shown rims are excellent in their quality and look. The Keystone rims coms with hubs. While the Michel Cherry rims comes with screws and nuts. 
I can't say which one are better, but I like the look of the Keystone rims because the look like real rims.

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Thanks for showing these ! Sounds like your very pleased w the quality of work.

Doug was a vendor in Fulton NY a few yrs back,  his rims were very popular . He also was showing a turned aluminum chemical trailer he was selling..my buddy actually let him use his prized Brockway to pull it..absolutely perfect combo

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Very nice looking wheels!!

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03D8747B-2D1D-41A2-B94F-7C04DE614F76.jpeg.9a7c913ac3a7fd0fa24e0212512a4ae7.jpeg I designed those wheels for Doug. I was very picky about getting them just right. We also did Peterbilt oval style and blank with no holes. I also had them make direct copies of the 20” split rim ten hole wheels like those found in the AMT Kenworth kits. The chrome rings from a kit are used to complete them. While we made those, we also made them as five hole wheels as well.

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I have a set of Doug’s 24.5 Peterbilt oval wheels designed by Ben and they are amazingly accurate - the prize of my collection. A beautiful, scale model in and of itself. I would highly recommend Doug’s wheels, and I’ll be buying more in the future. I also have a couple sets of MCA’s wheels, they are nice, but the one piece duals are spaced too wide. Michael will make them separate for an additional fee, and I’d recommend requesting that feature, if possible. Prices are comparable, back a few years ago, when I purchased them.

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On 19.8.2018 at 3:15 PM, Ben said:

03D8747B-2D1D-41A2-B94F-7C04DE614F76.jpeg.9a7c913ac3a7fd0fa24e0212512a4ae7.jpeg I designed those wheels for Doug. I was very picky about getting them just right. We also did Peterbilt oval style and blank with no holes. I also had them make direct copies of the 20” split rim ten hole wheels like those found in the AMT Kenworth kits. The chrome rings from a kit are used to complete them. While we made those, we also made them as five hole wheels as well.

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Excellent job

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On 2018-08-19 at 3:15 PM, Ben said:

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No one on the aftermarket does these type of wheels, at least none that I'm aware of.
The AMT truck front wheels does not look right, the wheels above are more like the wheels I have seen and would be a nice to be alble to get, both in 20 and 22 inch as it seems like 22 inch wheels were quite popular on highway trucks back in the day.
I think it's a bit strange that most aftermarket wheels for model trucks are more modern tubeless type when the US model trucks re-issued lately from Round 2 are from the late 60's and early 70's and modern truck kits are far between.

Here is a picture to illustrate what I mean.
The sharp ridge outside the lugnuts where the flat part meets the curved part on the front wheels should not be there, on early aluminum 10-hole or 5-hole lock ring wheels it should be a smooth transition from the curved part to the flat part,  both the AMT 20 inch and 22 inch wheels are like this.
I borrowed the picture from Old Albion's post here on the forum wich was the best I could find for this illustration.

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A couple of pictures of the real deal, most of the old aluminum lock ring wheels I have seen looks like this.
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1 hour ago, Force said:

No one on the aftermarket does these type of wheels, at least none that I'm aware of.
The AMT truck front wheels does not look right, the wheels above are more like the wheels I have seen and would be a nice to be alble to get, both in 20 and 22 inch as it seems like 22 inch wheels were quite popular on highway trucks back in the day.
I think it's a bit strange that most aftermarket wheels for model trucks are more modern tubeless type when the US model trucks re-issued lately from Round 2 are from the late 60's and early 70's and modern truck kits are far between.

Here is a picture to illustrate what I mean.
The sharp ridge outside the lugnuts where the flat part meets the curved part on the front wheels should not be there, on early aluminum 10-hole or 5-hole lock ring wheels it should be a smooth transition from the curved part to the flat part,  both the AMT 20 inch and 22 inch wheels are like this.
I borrowed the picture from Old Albion's post here on the forum wich was the best I could find for this illustration.

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A couple of pictures of the real deal, most of the old aluminum lock ring wheels I have seen looks like this.
10-hole.

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5-hole

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You’re correct, those 20” tubeless wheels are copies of the kit wheels only in size. I made all the modifications you mentioned. If you check with Doug Wagner, he may be able to have another run of them made. As far as I know, I’m the only person that bought them. Too many people think they’re too close to the kit wheels to justify the price.

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Here’s a pic of the five hole wheel. The two wheels together are preproduction prototypes.

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7 hours ago, Ben said:

You’re correct, those 20” tubeless wheels are copies of the kit wheels only in size. I made all the modifications you mentioned.

Yeah I noticed and that's one of the reasons they look nice, your 5-hole wheel look very nice too...and correct for the time period.
The AMT kit wheels are close but no cigar in my book as they don't look quite right, I might be picky but that's me.
It may not be that hard to correct the kit wheels tho', sand down the flat area until it meets the curved part and put in new lugnut detail...the upside is that you only have to do the two front wheels as this never shows on the rear duals.

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Yep, me too! To me the wheels can make or break a model. I actually did machine a plastic kit wheel to use as a prototype of how the aluminum wheels needed to look.

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