Oldcarfan27 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Just spent time online looking up the history on the Renwal Revival series and it got me thinking. Does anybody else but me have any interest in 70s Neo-Classic cars? Like Zimmers, Excaliburs, Stutz Blackhawks, etc. They're tacky, but kinda interesting in modern/retro/classic kinda way. I'm thinking of trying some conversions/kitbashing using newer and older kits. But I'd really like to have a correct kit of the Blackhawk. I'd want to build one like Elvis owned. And don't get me started on how I want the SuperFly kit reissued to get me going. Zimmer Mustangs Berlinna Firebirds Spartan 280zx and 300zx There was even some made using 80s Buick Regals (I don't know the name) Anyone else, or is this just a freak dream of mine? Edited September 2, 2018 by Oldcarfan27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugatti Fan Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 There were some really ugly neo classics made like the Excalibur fake Merc and the Panther Deville fake Royale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcarfan27 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 I know, I don't really care for the old flat, fendered MG roadsters. I'm digging the barroque, quasi, moderne streamlined Mercedes or Auburn Speedster look that was plopped onto new car bodies in the 70s and 80s. You know, with sweeping fenders, chrome standup grilles and wide wire wheels, but modern coupe or convertible bodies. Call it a sickness, but I'm hooked. Maybe it's because I'm so tired of the current homogenized, generic, jellybean, cookie-cutter cars available today that I'm longing to see the unique, flowing, coachbuilt creations that haven't been done since the 30s. Cars that were designed by artists who had a passion for style and love for the automobile, not by corporate bean-counters and computer program engineers. Yuck.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disabled modeler Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Patrick... Id love to build some of those. I had a MPC Grand Prix (Super Fly ) as a kid would love to build another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 These are interesting to look (and sometimes laugh) at, but not enough to interest me in building a model of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disabled modeler Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Snake45 said: These are interesting to look (and sometimes laugh) at, but not enough to interest me in building a model of one. Richard...yeah I know the Grand Prix Super Fly kit is an abomination of what was a great factory stock kit once but I have a sentimental reason for wanting one...LOL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Outside of the Stutz, I have no interest in those, ot the upright grilled regular production cars from that era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaxion Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I would buy at least ? an Excalibur . Possibly a Zimmer , Stutz , Duesenburgh . Packard , Studebaker , Pierce Arrow . I guess .. more than one . Thanx .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Yeah, bring 'em on! I love these cars, and schemed for years to try and get one. But even today, they sell for stupid money, and their rotten 1970-1980's underpinnings are falling apart. As for the Superfly kit, just run the Sweathogs version, and we'll do the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Maybe some less expensive examples ? Edited September 2, 2018 by Greg Myers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 and these VW classic MGs were mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcarfan27 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Greg Myers said: Maybe some less expensive examples ? Sorry, it's just not the same. They're just not as overdone or garish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcarfan27 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Since I doubt there are enough people wanting kits like these, I'm thinking I could be satisfied with an "interpretation" model rather than an exact replica. I could dig up some junker Monogram or Johan classics and blend them into a Mustang, Buick, Datsun or Camaro body and see what I come up with. Could be fun. Edited September 2, 2018 by Oldcarfan27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atmobil Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) I do like the original Excalibur SS roadsters, I friend of mine has a 66 longfender one in black. Cool cars, but very far from the luxoboats that where made later by Excalibur, Zimmer and other already mentioned. The SS roadster is an open two seater with no real roof, the doors are cut down and are more like just a small flap than a door and the interior space is intimate to say the least. A 1:25 model of one of those would be cool. But the later luxoboats? Who knows, maybe I would buy them if someone made a good kit of them. A full detail kit would also give us parts to use on other things. Here is a roadster similar to the one my friend has: It is built on the chassis of a Studebaker Lark, has a Chevy SB and gearbox from a Corvette. The discbrakes are made by Dunlop and are the same type that was used on Jaguar XK140. The brakemastercylinder is a GM one. Many parts come from many different sources and bodypanels are bespoke to the car, handbuilt and will only fit that car. The grille looks like a Mercedes grille and the car is supposed to resemble a ca 1928 Mercedes SSK. Edited September 2, 2018 by Atmobil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Then there's George Barris' creation, the "Barrister" Built on a '70s Corvette chassis. Several of these were supposedly made and sold to some movie stars. I don't think it looks too bad. Better than a lot of neo-classics. A lot of Stutz Blackhawk in this design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, Can-Con said: Then there's George Barris' creation, the "Barrister" Built on a '70s Corvette chassis. Several of these were supposedly made and sold to some movie stars. I don't think it looks too bad. Better than a lot of neo-classics. A lot of Stutz Blackhawk in this design. I'd drive one, they'd be fun to drive around. Building a scale model would be fun too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atmobil Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Now I remeber one that I have always liked, the Corvorado: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Edited September 2, 2018 by Greg Myers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I do like the earlier Blackhawks; if you wanted to build one you'd probably have to mashup the Renwal Stutz from the cowl back with the front clip from the Renwal Duesenberg. Chassis could be a stretched AMT Monte Carlo unit (close enough unless you have a gluebomb Grand Prix). And yep, they were popular with the celebs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
om617 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 23 hours ago, Snake45 said: These are interesting to look (and sometimes laugh) at, but not enough to interest me in building a model of one. X2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atmobil Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 2.9.2018 at 9:02 PM, Greg Myers said: Anyone here built any of these? Are they good or bad? I have seen them on Ebay but never bought one so far. 1:12 is a bit to big for my taste but I do have other largescale kits aswell so I could have these aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) Long time ago, I remember them being rather toy like. Remember some of them were "Motorized" The hood exhaust pipes were springs Edited September 3, 2018 by Greg Myers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 2018-09-02 at 2:40 PM, Atmobil said: Now I remeber one that I have always liked, the Corvorado: This version always looked like a hodge podged cluster of after thoughts. I like these versions, the red looks sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Another I like is the Clenet Series I; it had pretty good long-nosed proportions plus it got a memorable workout in one of my favorite movies, S.O.B.: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTony8 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I said years ago that someone missed the boat by not offering an Airflow conversion for the VW Beetle. To me it was a natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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