Force Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) The pump drive also drives the magneto from an angle gear (the blue thing the magneto is attached to), the angle gear unit itself is driven from the cam drive and is bolted to the front of the timing chain cover, and the fuel pump is in front of it driven by the same unit from the same shaft. The setup kind of looks like this, not exactly the same as this is a more recent unit, but you might get the drift. Here is the setup he used on the 33 Willys wich is the same as on the Malco Gasser. Edited September 16, 2018 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Farmboy Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) I think After a lot of photo enlargement you are right. Guess I just have to make the half round gear cover. From my perspective the gear cover made it look — to me— that it was on the side of the pump, not on it. Thanx for the heads up. Edited September 17, 2018 by Farmboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Don't mention it, as you strive for accuracy...wich I also do when I build something like this...I thought that you wanted this part to be right too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comp1839 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Great pix, one and all. I have this kit, but hadn't begun the research yet. Thanks loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Great pix, one and all. I have this kit, but hadn't begun the research yet. Thanks loads. Hey the Ace is back, welcome back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Thank you, Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Caballo Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Wow, I need to get this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 ....one more thing that's bothering me. in this photo.... ...and others, there is what looks to be a 90 degree shielded pipe on the front of the engine. Some photos have it on the right, others, like the red mustang, on the left side of the engine. I thought it might be an oil return hose but I don't think this car carried an oil tank. Could it be a crankcase vent outlet? There is only one in photos where it is visible, the unused side having a plate bolted over it. The block would need a vent somewhere. these usually had an in line oil catch can of some type, and lots had a pipe welded somewhere to the header to help in the vacuum, though not 100% did. Photos do not make it obvious. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) It looks to be crank case ventilation, the tube goes over to a black hose without any clamps on it so it can't be any pressure there, it must go to a catch tank somewhere in the car. The engine setup is very similar on the 33 Willys and same type of tube is present... the hose is transparent in this case. And the Mr Gasket Gasser has this crank case vent tube and transparent hose where the fuel pump usually sits on a SOHC, on the Malco Gasser and 33 Willys this location is blocked off with a plate. Edited September 20, 2018 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvadrag Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 These are great detail pictures! What a treasure trove. These kits have been around for a long time and it is outstanding that modelers want to get the details right on their builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Does anyone have the December 2014 SAE issue. There's an article on his model and I am missing a few pages (maybe 31-32) of the article. UPDATE:. Do not need anymore. Thanks. Edited January 14, 2019 by vamach1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisc63 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 9/16/2018 at 7:12 PM, Farmboy said: I think After a lot of photo enlargement you are right. Guess I just have to make the half round gear cover. From my perspective the gear cover made it look — to me— that it was on the side of the pump, not on it. Thanx for the heads up. I think you are both close, but not exact. The distributor IS above, but it must be offset to the side (as seen from straight ahead) enough for the gear on its vertical shaft to mesh with the pump's horizontal shaft/gear assembly. Look closely at the photos above. Good stuff in this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bykr Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Great thread. Just a few comments. I would agree that the line coming off the timing cover is to a catch can probably underneath the car, never inside. Zoomies would never have a line attached to them for crankcase vacuum. I have the diecast version, if any additional photos of it are needed let me know what you'd like. I have a built kit that I want to add detail to, thanks for all the photos and the drawings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 12 hours ago, bisc63 said: I think you are both close, but not exact. The distributor IS above, but it must be offset to the side (as seen from straight ahead) enough for the gear on its vertical shaft to mesh with the pump's horizontal shaft/gear assembly. Look closely at the photos above. Good stuff in this thread! That was what I was trying to explain...I know how this setup works. 9 hours ago, bykr said: Just a few comments. I would agree that the line coming off the timing cover is to a catch can probably underneath the car, never inside. Zoomies would never have a line attached to them for crankcase vacuum Yes, the line must go under the car most likely to a catch tank of some sort, like you I don't believe it's a Vac-U-Pan system like some use in regular headers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On September 14, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Force said: I have gone through all my "Ohio" George car pictures on my hard drive but haven't found any good pictures that explains the fuel and cooling system in an easy way on the 67 Malco Gasser Mustang, but the car didn't have a regular radiator, it looks like a kind of combined fuel tank/ coolant overflow tank in front of the engine wich holds fuel and water, the water was circulated through the engine and connected to the tank with small diameter tubes and hoses wich goes in where the water pump normaly sits on the engine block, I don't think he used a water pump on the car, at least the engine didn't have one. Another thing I noticed is that this tank was changed and the version of the Malco Gasser that exist today has a different tank from the one used on the early version and he used the same setup on the 69 Mr Gasket Gasser Mustang. Here are some of the pictures of this area I have saved in my files over the years. First the early version of the tank/radiator wich is in the MPC kit. And the late version as it is today, now it's a combined fuel/water tank. The fuel/water tank on the Mr Gasket Gasser before the turbo version. I hope they will show what you need...or at least give you a hint. These are GREAT pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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