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On 10/15/2018 at 10:45 AM, George Bojaciuk said:

PayPal has a finite time limit on disputes. I placed an order and rec'd notice that it had shipped. 15 days later, there was absolutely no activity on tracking. I could have driven to his door in 30 mins. When I inquired about my item, is when I learned that it had not even been made. It was a game to run out the clock. I pushed the issue with PayPal, who also thought the item had shipped. All documentation was saved. My profile on his site showed that he was only giving me back  partial refund, keeping the PP portion. In the end, PayPay refunded me the full amount.

Sounds like my experience exactly. 

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On 12/21/2018 at 4:28 PM, Draggon said:

Every time I see a thread like this, I am quick to point out that I may be the only person on this planet to relieve orders from both Reliable Resin and Arrowhead Aluminum. I'm sure not going to chance that again, ever! :o

 

You are living right or Blessed . It depends on your beliefs . Thanx .. 

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On ‎10‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 5:25 PM, Roncla said:

He does sell on Ebay which may be a safer option for purchasing if  there was something that couldn't be purchased elsewhere given Ebays' guaranteed delivery.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/got_de_mottz/m.html?item=232887730644&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

I've always wondered how some businesses that have a poor reputation for delivery can offer PayPal as a option.

I'd have thought PayPal would be withdrawing their service if they were racking up persistent complaints about the business practices of a retailer.

Paypal couldn't care less about persistent complaints about their business practices because Paypal itself is a less-than-honest operation.  For as long as they have been in business, users have been ripped off, usually for large sums of money well into the thousands of dollars. Paypal's excuses for their long delays is they're looking for: 1. unpaid civil court judgments;  2. overdue child or spousal support payments;  3 unpaid state or federal taxes.  Some complainants allege this scam can last as little as six months, and some for over two years.  Of course, to whom the payee may owe money is none of their business, and they know that.  What they're actually doing is creaming off the interest on these large sums, before finally releasing them to their naive victims.  Why is this not illegal?  Because Paypal is neither a bank nor any kind of financial institution.  In fact, Paypal is nothing but an informal intermediary, no different from the guy next door.  .  They are not required to be licensed, insured, bonded, or regulated in any way.  Still in doubt?  Google "paypal is a fraud", "paypal is a rip-off", "fuxx Paypal","Paypal is Bullxxit!" or with other appropriate expletives.                                                                                                                                                     

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11 minutes ago, luvzoldmopars said:

Paypal couldn't care less about complaints because Paypal itself is a less-than-honest operation.  For as long as they have been in business, users have been ripped off, usually for large sums of money well into the thousands of dollars. Paypal's excuse for the long delay is they're looking for 1. unpaid civil court judgments;  2. overdue child or spousal support payments;  3 unpaid state or federal taxes.  Some complaints allege this scam can last as little as six months, and some for over two years.  Of course, to whom the payee may owe money is none of their business, and they know that.  What they're actually doing is creaming off the interest on that large sum, before finally turning it over to the unsuspecting victim.  Why is this not illegal?  Because Paypal is neither a bank nor any kind of financial institution.  In fact, Paypal is nothing but an informal intermediary.  They are not required to be licensed, insured, bonded, or regulated in any way.  Still in doubt?  Google "paypal is a fraud", "paypal is a rip-off", "Paypal is Bullxxit!" or with other appropriate expletive you can think of.                                                                                                                                                     

If there could be given 'likes' for posts, this would be it. In no way do I want to turn this political,  but PayPal was started by a certain individual who's very much wanted (not in a good way) in other countries. Do some digging on PayPal and you'll see what I mean. ;)

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4 minutes ago, MrObsessive said:

If there could be given 'likes' for posts, this would be it. In no way do I want to turn this political,  but PayPal was started by a certain individual who's very much wanted (not in a good way) in other countries. Do some digging on PayPal and you'll see what I mean. ;)

Nothing political here at all.  Just passing along settled facts that are already in the public domain.  I've been shadowing these ^*&%# since they impregnated eBay with their toxic venom and ruined the eBay experience for millions of people.  I haven't gone into the cold-hosing they stuck me for, and have no plans to.  It is what it is.  I'm just the messenger.

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2 minutes ago, luvzoldmopars said:

Nothing political here at all.  Just passing along settled facts that are already in the public domain.  I've been shadowing these ^*&%# since they impregnated eBay with their toxic venom and ruined the eBay experience for millions of people.  I haven't gone into the cold-hosing they stuck me for, and have no plans to.  It is what it is.  I'm just the messenger.

Oh no I hear ya! It's just that if I mention who it is, it can quickly devolve into that. I've heard the horror stories about PayPal so I know where you're coming from. I had a run-in with them years ago when they froze my account immediately after someone paid me a large sum of money for a 1/12 scale Danbury Mint model I had sold. No reason given.........the person that bought it from me was from Russia so I don't know if that had anything to do with it or not.

Just the same, I betcha if there was a thorough investigation of PayPal and the things they may be into, there would be some massive turning of stomachs. It will come out about them sooner or later.............it's just a matter of time. ;)

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32 minutes ago, MrObsessive said:

Oh no I hear ya! It's just that if I mention who it is, it can quickly devolve into that. I've heard the horror stories about PayPal so I know where you're coming from. I had a run-in with them years ago when they froze my account immediately after someone paid me a large sum of money for a 1/12 scale Danbury Mint model I had sold. No reason given.........the person that bought it from me was from Russia so I don't know if that had anything to do with it or not.

Just the same, I betcha if there was a thorough investigation of PayPal and the things they may be into, there would be some massive turning of stomachs. It will come out about them sooner or later.............it's just a matter of time. ;)

How delicately you nudge the sleeping giant Paypal iceberg!  I have not heard someone from Paypal was wanted in other countries.  It's no secret eBay has been sanctioned millions of dollars for fakes, frauds, forgeries, shill bidding and phony knock-off products around the globe, and they haven't paid out one thin dime yet.  Several years ago they p'd off Australia with their Paypal-only baloney, and in 2008 they masked bidders and sellers names and began seductively promoting shill bidding.  They also dropped their prohibitions against defamatory materials, smut and child pornography.  There's an excellent 'how-to' book written by a disbarred California attorney, about how he scammed millions of dollars in fake artwork using eBay shill accounts, and how eBay knew about it all along, yet did nothing ("Fake: Forgery, Lies, & eBay" by Kenneth Walton).  Like you, I've been waiting for the other boot to drop, and see these crooks go under the guillotine.  But as long as there's no official oversight of the Internet, nothing is ever going to change.  eBay and Paypal are proof of that already.

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