Dave Van Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The old tool 1/24 56 Chevy seems a odd pick.....must be the 'Mom and Grandma Birthday model pick 2019' entry..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 41 minutes ago, niteowl7710 said: Not being my area of expertise, is there anything about making the current kit into an AAR that would require them to tweak the body cavity mold (eg new side inserts)? From a quick glance it seems like the differences would all be covered with engine, hood, etc inserts leaving the body to soldier on unchanged. Pretty much like you mentioned. New hood, new exhaust, and new engine as the AAR's IIRC used a 340(?), not the Hemis that are in the current kits. Of course, proper decals would be needed and good ones not unreasonable facsimiles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dave Van said: The old tool 1/24 56 Chevy seems a odd pick.....must be the 'Mom and Grandma Birthday model pick 2019' entry..... Keep in mind it's a Europe facing release list, has that kit ever seen the light of day overseas? They have all of this "free" tooling, might as well run some of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espo Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The series III Land Rover could be an interesting model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeBee Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, espo said: The series III Land Rover could be an interesting model. Unless it's going to be a New mold, which i very much doubt it will be, it will be a reissue version of the old Esci/Italeri 109" station wagon, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bacon Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, GeeBee said: Unless it's going to be a New mold, which i very much doubt it will be, it will be a reissue version of the old Esci/Italeri 109" station wagon, It does say specifically "new tool" in the IPMS Deutschland list, and they normally have good info. And here: http://www.kitreviewsonline.de/revell-neuheiten-2019-das-ii-bis-iv-quartal/#more-40975 You can find: "07047 Land Rover Series III (New Tool) 09/2019 Kit Level 3 with long wheelbase with engine reproduction, right and left hand drive version" I'm a bit suspicious that it's only a "level 3" even though it has an engine, but it's good that it has both RHD and LHD options. I guess it won't have TWO engines, because I'd like at least a V8 and a diesel... best, M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, MrObsessive said: Pretty much like you mentioned. New hood, new exhaust, and new engine as the AAR's IIRC used a 340(?), not the Hemis that are in the current kits. Of course, proper decals would be needed and good ones not unreasonable facsimiles! Yes the AARs ran 340s. For homolgation purposes (to qualify as a production car) Chrysler had to produce 2800 Barracudas (2724 AARs actually built) and 2500 Challengers (2400 Challengers T/As actually produced) with the 340 installed. Edited January 1, 2019 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Matt Bacon said: It does say specifically "new tool" in the IPMS Deutschland list, and they normally have good info. And here: http://www.kitreviewsonline.de/revell-neuheiten-2019-das-ii-bis-iv-quartal/#more-40975 You can find: "07047 Land Rover Series III (New Tool) 09/2019 Kit Level 3 with long wheelbase with engine reproduction, right and left hand drive version" I'm a bit suspicious that it's only a "level 3" even though it has an engine, but it's good that it has both RHD and LHD options. I guess it won't have TWO engines, because I'd like at least a V8 and a diesel... best, M. What does 3 mean over there? When they realigned the U.S. "Skill" Levels to the 1-5 style Europe used Skill Level 3 covered anything that was pre-painted regardless as to the kit's part total wound up being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, niteowl7710 said: What does 3 mean over there? When they realigned the U.S. "Skill" Levels to the 1-5 style Europe used Skill Level 3 covered anything that was pre-painted regardless as to the kit's part total wound up being. Looking at the current Revell DE website, kits at Level 3 include the Monogram '66 Shelby, '10 Shelby GT500, Audi R8 coupe and Spyder, BMW i8, Mercedes AMG-GT, Porsche Panamera, McLaren 570S, etc...so reasonably highly detailed. Level 4 kits include the '68 Charger, '97 Ford F150, Mercedes SLS, Porsche 918... Edited January 1, 2019 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Darby Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 hours ago, niteowl7710 said: Keep in mind it's a Europe facing release list, has that kit ever seen the light of day overseas? They have all of this "free" tooling, might as well run some of it. The Monogram 56 and 57 Chevy tools would make great boat anchors. I've seen Palmer kits that looked better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rob Hall said: Looking at the current Revell DE website, kits at Level 3 include the Monogram '66 Shelby, '10 Shelby GT500, Audi R8 coupe and Spyder, BMW i8, Mercedes AMG-GT, Porsche Panamera, McLaren 570S, etc...so reasonably highly detailed. Level 4 kits include the '68 Charger, '97 Ford F150, Mercedes SLS, Porsche 918... The whole idea of assigning skill levels is just silly. I can't believe the old Monogram 1st Gen Mustang is as complex a kit as the 20xx Mustangs. Meanwhile the Audis are Level 3, but the new Ford GT which has 88 parts and metal axles/very little suspension is a Level 4...because you have to glue the body together, paint a tri-tone and decal it? Edited January 1, 2019 by niteowl7710 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, niteowl7710 said: The whole idea of assigning skill levels is just silly. I can't believe the old Monogram 1st Gen Mustang is as complex a kit as the 20xx Mustangs. Meanwhile the Audis are Level 3, but the new Ford GT which has 88 parts and metal axles/very little suspension is a Level 4...because you have to glue the body together, paint a tri-tone and decal it? It all seems very arbitrary.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, afx said: Yes the AARs ran 340s. For homolgation purposes (to qualify as a production car) Chrysler had to produce 2800 Barracudas (2724 AARs actually built) and 2500 Challengers (2400 Challengers T/As actually produced) with the 340 installed. Was there not a unique exhaust ? Or was it on every v8 cuda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Exotics_Builder said: Was there not a unique exhaust ? Or was it on every v8 cuda? That was unique to the AAR (Challenger T/A had it also I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) Standard Cuda V8 exhaust. Edited January 1, 2019 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) H 3 hours ago, Matt Bacon said: It does say specifically "new tool" in the IPMS Deutschland list, and they normally have good info. And here: http://www.kitreviewsonline.de/revell-neuheiten-2019-das-ii-bis-iv-quartal/#more-40975 You can find: "07047 Land Rover Series III (New Tool) 09/2019 Kit Level 3 with long wheelbase with engine reproduction, right and left hand drive version" I'm a bit suspicious that it's only a "level 3" even though it has an engine, but it's good that it has both RHD and LHD options. I guess it won't have TWO engines, because I'd like at least a V8 and a diesel... best, M. Wonder if it's a joint venture with Italeri, cuz their Fire truck version which they announced for 2018, didn't materialize yet, and also remember that Hannants initially announced (and later removed) a new Land Rover (product number 07047) by Revell on new years eve in '17, this makes me think the Hobbico implosion, delayed both releases, of which I assume they were originally planned for Q4 2018. Edited January 1, 2019 by Luc Janssens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeBee Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Matt Bacon said: It does say specifically "new tool" in the IPMS Deutschland list, and they normally have good info. And here: http://www.kitreviewsonline.de/revell-neuheiten-2019-das-ii-bis-iv-quartal/#more-40975 You can find: "07047 Land Rover Series III (New Tool) 09/2019 Kit Level 3 with long wheelbase with engine reproduction, right and left hand drive version" I'm a bit suspicious that it's only a "level 3" even though it has an engine, but it's good that it has both RHD and LHD options. I guess it won't have TWO engines, because I'd like at least a V8 and a diesel... best, M. The old Esci kit, which was re-released a few years ago by Italeri had the bottom end of the engine molded with the chassis, but also had a choice of Left or Right hand dashboards, if it indeed is going to have a full detailed engine i would expect it to have a higher than level 3 build rating, but only time will tell..... Edited January 1, 2019 by GeeBee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bacon Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Rob Hall said: It all seems very arbitrary.. As I understand it from talking to the Revell Germany guys at Scale Model World this year, their ratings are purely based on number of parts. So I guess if you have a kit with multiple alternative parts it'll score higher than one with fewer total parts, but more of them used in any given build... Arbitrary, for sure, but I guess it's a start. best, M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 8 hours ago, bbowser said: That tractor is a must! I guess I'm channeling my inner farmer Its a follow up to the Porsche Jr Tractor they did, part of the Easy Click System kits, it was a fun a little kit to build, looking forward to this one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutaFocus Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 8 hours ago, MrObsessive said: Pretty much like you mentioned. New hood, new exhaust, and new engine as the AAR's IIRC used a 340(?), not the Hemis that are in the current kits. Of course, proper decals would be needed and good ones not unreasonable facsimiles! I don't know if the Sox & Martin kit includes it, but the AAR would also require a new rear valence panel without the exhaust tip outlets. I wonder if they will bother with the tire stagger in the kit. AAR's and T/A Challengers used larger rear tires than the fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, OutaFocus said: I don't know if the Sox & Martin kit includes it, but the AAR would also require a new rear valence panel without the exhaust tip outlets. I wonder if they will bother with the tire stagger in the kit. AAR's and T/A Challengers used larger rear tires than the fronts. Just since we're talking about the "new" Revell '70 Cuda, I've never thought the front end of that thing looked right. I don't know what it is--grille, bumper, front valence, or some combination of the three, I just can't put my finger on it. One of these days I"m gonna sit down with that kit and a bunch of good photos and try to figure out what it is. It just looks "Foose-ified" or something, like it's been subtly modified in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, OutaFocus said: I don't know if the Sox & Martin kit includes it, but the AAR would also require a new rear valence panel without the exhaust tip outlets. I wonder if they will bother with the tire stagger in the kit. AAR's and T/A Challengers used larger rear tires than the fronts. Surprisingly the race cars still had the exhaust outlets in place. Maybe they started with standard Cuda bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Could be aero related, kinda like the guys who cut holes in the back bumpers of their late model race cars, reduces any potential parachute like effect that would be created by having those areas solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Rob Hall said: That was unique to the AAR (Challenger T/A had it also I think). You thunk correctly Rob, the Challenger T/A also had the side dump exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler62990 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 hours ago, martinfan5 said: Its a follow up to the Porsche Jr Tractor they did, part of the Easy Click System kits, it was a fun a little kit to build, looking forward to this one too. Same. The Deutz, Porsche, and MF that Heller just repoped are on my "stuff to buy after Christmas" list. Weathering heaven lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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