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1969 Dodge Charger Convertable

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15 hours ago, ewetwo said:

This is so cool. 

 

14 hours ago, High octane said:

Interesting build so far.

Thanks guys, this is just off the wall enough that it will make for an interesting finished product!

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I was just rereading some old car mags and there was a story in one about a factory-custom '68 or '69 Charger roadster they built for some exec. It was white, and other than the missing top, seemed to be pretty much stock. 

ETA: Found a pic of it online. 

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Here's a color picture of the Topless Charger

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I believe that car has been restored to that original iteration too! I think at one time the car ended up with a Daytona nose cone and '70 taillights and panel!

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That's a cool Charger, I just don't like the cut down windscreen. Just my opinion, tho! LOL

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9 minutes ago, Bucky said:

That's a cool Charger, I just don't like the cut down windscreen. Just my opinion, tho! LOL

I have to think an evolution of one that is shortened to E-Body dimensions, topless (but more windshield), and with the Daytona nose (but no wing) and '68 taillights and panel, then lowered to about the same altitude as a modern Hellcat sedan would be pretty neat looking.

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16 hours ago, Joe Handley said:

I have to think an evolution of one that is shortened to E-Body dimensions, topless (but more windshield), and with the Daytona nose (but no wing) and '68 taillights and panel, then lowered to about the same altitude as a modern Hellcat sedan would be pretty neat looking.

Look for pictures of the Dodge Challenger Diamante. That was another factory show car that Dodge built. It started out as a modified Challenger with a still-stock-ish front end, called "the Yellow Jacket", and later, was revised the next year with a Daytona-like nose, repainted, and then called the Diamante. It still survives to this day.  

As you know, the E Body was built around the B Body engine box, with a shortened chassis pan and overhangs, so a Challenger-based show car in this vein is (body wise) close to what you describe! :) 

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I've seen that before too, although a Charger cut down to that size, but with the aeroheadrests could be interesting too;)

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On 7/15/2019 at 12:39 PM, Snake45 said:

I was just rereading some old car mags and there was a story in one about a factory-custom '68 or '69 Charger roadster they built for some exec.

(Don Pardo voice) Not just any exec, Snake! That's Elwood P. Engel, the Ford stylist Chrysler hired to de-Exnerize their '63-'64 car lines (which explains the slab-sided, knife-edged Imperials and why the Turbine resembles the '61-'63 T-bird in side view).

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Finally got around to sanding those triangle shaped filler panels to better match the quarters, decklid, and daisey panel, it's about to the point I can put some primer on it and see how much spot filler it might need!

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I'm also going crazy on this and the Shelby Z trying to improve the appearance of the panel gaps since they are so weak on both kits.

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Very cool build! I like that you noticed the windshield is not the same. It is not because they use sedan glass. Since the convertibles and wagons sold in low volumes they "carried over" the green house from the 66-67 B-bodies. Since the other 68 B-bodies got a mild top cop the wagons and convertibles look tall by comparison.

For the rear interior panels you should google what they look like as none of the kits do it correctly. The panels are one piece plastic and the upper portion blends from the back of the front door into the pocket area for the top frame. Under the upper portion is a small oddly shaped  arm rest pocket. It looks nothing like how Ford and GM did it in the 60's.

I have a 68 Coronet 500 convertible with the 68 only green top. I think 69 also had a special top color - possibly dark blue??

Carmak

Iowa

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2 hours ago, Carmak said:

Very cool build! I like that you noticed the windshield is not the same. It is not because they use sedan glass. Since the convertibles and wagons sold in low volumes they "carried over" the green house from the 66-67 B-bodies. Since the other 68 B-bodies got a mild top cop the wagons and convertibles look tall by comparison.

For the rear interior panels you should google what they look like as none of the kits do it correctly. The panels are one piece plastic and the upper portion blends from the back of the front door into the pocket area for the top frame. Under the upper portion is a small oddly shaped  arm rest pocket. It looks nothing like how Ford and GM did it in the 60's.

I have a 68 Coronet 500 convertible with the 68 only green top. I think 69 also had a special top color - possibly dark blue??

Carmak

Iowa

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Thanks!

 

I've tried to Google the portion of the interiors that held the mechanicals and nobody has any good pics that I can find, that's why I finally bought the '69 GTX kit. Sadly, I one of the best views I've found was a quick clip from a recent Mecum auction on TV of what I think was a Coronet R/T or Super Bee convertible, and even that wasn't great. I'm building this as a "what if" styling prototype including the Recall wheels and using the shorter, stock windshield for if they were looking to see how it would look with the normal Charger sized windshield in it. I need to look at the Revell '68 Charger kit interior pieces to see of there is anything missing that should be in this tub, since it looks a wee bit bare to me.

 

Nice looking Coronet too! Dad and his next younger brother both had '62 Furys (Dad's was white with red interior, not sure what thenother was painted) then his brother had a '68 or '69 Coronet R/T Dad bought off him that he and Mom drove for a while and built up credit with until they traded on a '70 Charger R/T 440 Six Pack 4 Speed and Super Track Pack car.  Not sure what color the Coronet was, but Mom HATED the stripe around the rear as it tended to attract the unwanted attention of both cops and boy racers.........needless to say, the Charger was a simple F8 Green w/white vinyl top and interior,  plain steelies with dog dish caps and and no R/T stripe!  Dad even had them de-trim it to look more like a 500 car too. At one time, his parent (my grandparents) had a R/T-SE Challenger in a carmel likenshade of brown with I think a tan top (it's been 40 years since I saw that last). All of them were bought in Iowa as Dad's side of the family was living around Ames at the time and Dad had been friends with the late drag racer Gary Ostrich back then before I was around too.

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On 7/22/2019 at 9:37 PM, Carmak said:

Very cool build! I like that you noticed the windshield is not the same. It is not because they use sedan glass. Since the convertibles and wagons sold in low volumes they "carried over" the green house from the 66-67 B-bodies. Since the other 68 B-bodies got a mild top cop the wagons and convertibles look tall by comparison.

For the rear interior panels you should google what they look like as none of the kits do it correctly. The panels are one piece plastic and the upper portion blends from the back of the front door into the pocket area for the top frame. Under the upper portion is a small oddly shaped  arm rest pocket. It looks nothing like how Ford and GM did it in the 60's.

I have a 68 Coronet 500 convertible with the 68 only green top. I think 69 also had a special top color - possibly dark blue??

Carmak

Iowa

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I need to recant my statement about the 69 GTX convertible interior. I spent a few minutes and dug out one of my kits and it actually has very accurate rear interior panels - it is the boot that is nasty. Therefore the 69 GTX would make a great source for rear interior panels.

All of the 68-70 B-body convertibles used the same rear interior panel pieces except for a small section of upholstery that matched the front door panels of the particular model. You could trim down the rear section of the Revel Charger interior panels and fit them into the GTX pieces to duplicate this look. I will try to get you some pics of my interior for reference.

I enjoyed your story about your families muscle Mopars. My father drove a 62 Dodge Dart /6 all the way into the late 70's - the opposite of Mopar muscle :) 

I look forward to seeing the progress on your Charger !

Carmak

 

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Thanks again, any interior pictures would be appreciated too!

Other than a few GM products (the G-series van being the only ones I would buy for a project) and our XJ Cherokees (even my '98 still has a good bit of AMC to it), we've stayed pretty loyal to Chrysler over the years, even as FCA.

I did get some 2 part glazing filler for this Charger and the '88 Shelby Z I'm also building from a local auto body jobber called RestoPaint. Told the owner Miguel what I was looking to do and the stuff he recommended mixed and went down nicely, I did leave it to cure until tomorrow before I start working on sanding the filler.

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