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For those of you who have "lost" the list of "which engines come in which kits" that FORCE had restructured into a "usable" format, it can be found on the 13th page of this category, have tried to just add a comment to it and bring it back into the active topics, but...….

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Caterpillar 1160

AMT Ford LNT-8000
 
Caterpillar 3406A
Revell/Monogram Snap Kenworth W 900 Aerodyne
Revell/Monogram Snap Peterbilt 359
 
Caterpillar 3408
Revell AG Kenworth W 900 VIT
Revell AG Kenworth T 900 Australia
Revell AG Kenworth W 900 Dump Truck
Revell AG Kenworth W 900 Wrecker
 
Cummins V903
Ertl International Transtar F-4270
 
Cummins NHC-250
AMT White Freightliner Dual Drive
AMT White Freightliner Single Drive
AMT/ERTL Autocar 9964B Dumptruck
AMT Autocar A64B
 
Cummins NTA-370
AMT Kenworth K 123/125
AMT Kenworth W 900 Alaskan Hauler
AMT Kenworth W 925 Challenge Transit Mixer
AMT Kenworth W 923/925
AMT Kenworth T 600A/Canepa
 
Cummins NTC-350
AMT White Road Boss (Road Boss box says NTD-350 but I don't know of any such engine so it must be a NTC-350)
AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Cab Wrecker (T533 and all issues after that)
AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Cab (T501 and all issues after that)
AMT Diamond Reo
AMT White Western Star
 
Cummins NTC-400
Italeri Freightliner FLC
Revell AG Mack Superliner
Revell AG Ford LTL 9000 (no aftercooler)
Revell AG Ford Aeromax (no aftercooler)
Italeri Freightliner FLC Dumptruck
Italeri Western Star
Italeri Mack Superliner
Italeri Freightliner FLD (no aftercooler)
 
Cummins NTC-475 (twin turbos)
Revell AG Peterbilt 353
Revell AG Peterbilt 359
Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Bill Signs Trucking Conventional
Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Wrecker Stepp's Can-Do and the new Revell US re-issue
Revell AG Kenworth K 100 Heavy Hauler Tri-drive
Revell AG Kenworth K 100 VIT Australia
Revell AG Kenworth K 100 Aerodyne
Revell AG Kenworth T 600A
 
 
Detroit Diesel 8V-71
AMT Peterbilt 352 Pacemaker COE (T551 and all issues after that)
AMT Peterbilt 359 California Hauler "Small Window" Unilite Cab (T500-500, T500 and the newly reissued AMT 866)
AMT Peterbilt 359 "Small Window" Unilite Cab Wrecker (T522)
AMT GMC Astro 95
AMT Chevrolet Titan 90
AMT American LaFrance
Ertl International CO-4070A
Ertl International Transtar II Eagle
 
Detroit Diesel 8V-92T
AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne
AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Papa Truck
AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Hideout Truck
 
Detroit Diesel 8V-92
AMT/Ertl GMC General
AMT/Ertl Chevy Bison
 
Detroit Diesel 12V-71T
AMT Kenworth W900 Super Boss (Termo King)
AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Super Boss (Bandag)
AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Bandag Bandit

Detroit Diesel 16V-71
AMT/Ertl International Payhauler 350
 
Detroit Diesel Series 60
Italeri Peterbilt 377AE
Italeri Peterbilt 378
Revell AG Peterbilt 377AE
 
International V-800
AMT/Ertl International Paystar 5000
AMT/Ertl International Transtar 4300
Ertl International F-2674/2575
 
International Maxxforce 15
Moebius International Lonestar
Moebius International Pro Star II
 
Mack ENDT-673
MPC/AMT/Ertl Mack DM600
 
Mack ENDT-865
MPC/AMT/Ertl Mack DM800
 
Mack ENDT-675
AMT/Ertl R-685ST/R Model
 
Mack ENDT-676 Tip Turbine
AMT/Matchbox Mack Cruiseliner COE
 
Turbine Experimental
AMT GMC Astro 95 (T510 from 1971-72)

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I have it along with the list of engine colors stored in my phone!! Comes in handy quite a bit!!!

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Good to see this useful list back on top..might be more appropriate pinned..

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20 hours ago, gotnitro? said:

Good to see this useful list back on top..might be more appropriate pinned..

Agreed Jeff!!!

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Posted (edited)

That was my original thought when I put the lists together...I thought it was good useful information for all truck builders...but the moderators haven't noticed and pinned the topic as I thought they would.
This topic consists of two different topics merged together and further in I listed these truck diesels again and I also did a list of resin truck diesels as well as a list of truck engine colors...as I said...useful information for a truck model builder.
These lists are not exactly up to date right now as some have dissappeared and some have been added since they were put together, but as we can't edit old posts anymore I can't fix it.

But here is the link to my original lists wich are in this topic: 

 

Edited by Force

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Thanks for pinning. B)

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Posted (edited)

It was asked about aftermarket engines. This is a list of what I have put together. This is by no means a complete list, but it may be a help to those looking for an engine.

Currently Available:

Gary Wallace:

Detroit 6-71

Detroit 6v-92T

Detroit 8v-92T

Detroit 12v-71T

Cummins V903

Yellow 3406A  Front or rear sump

Yellow 3406B Front or rear sump

Yellow 3406C

Yellow 3406E

 

A.I.T.M.:

Cummins NTC

Cummins V903

Detroit 12v-71T

Detroit 16v-71T

Mack ETAZ676 ETA673

Mack Maxitouqe Bottom Curbside

Mack TRD 67-72 Bottom Curbside

 

Auslowe:

Yellow 3406

Cummins V903

Cummins V903T

Cummins N14

Cummins Signature

Detroit 8v-92 valve cover choices

Detroit 12v-71 Turbo or non

Detroit 6v-71 or 6v-92T valve cover choices

Detroit 60 Series

Mack E7

Mack E9 V8

Mack ENDT 675

 

Moluminum:

Yellow C15

Mack E7

Detroit 12v-71 Turbo or non

Detroit 6-71 Turbo or non  valve cover choices

Cummins L10

Cummins  4  BT

Cummins  6  BT

 

Kit Form Services:

Yellow 1693TA

Yellow C13

 

Dans Models (Ebay)

Cummins NHRS

 

If anyone wants to add to this list feel free.

 

 

Edited by DRIPTROIT 71

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Posted (edited)

This is a list a a few formerly available engines that may be found second hand. This by far is not complete and mostly by memory.

Clint Freeman Components:

Detroit 6-71

Yellow 3406C

Yellow 3406E

 

P&P

Cummins KTA 600

Detroit 12v71

 

Spaulding Trading and Shipping

Detroit 6-71

Detroit 12v-71TT

 

Sourkraut's:

Detroit 6-71

Cummins KTA 600

Cummins M11

 

Back Yard Shed:

Detroit 6v-92T

Cummins V903

Mack Thermodyne

Mack E6

Mack E9

Volvo 6

 

Melbourne Truck Accessories:

Detroit 8v-71

Detroit 8v-92T Front mount turbo

Detroit 8v-92T Rear mount turbo

Detroit 12v-71

Detroit 12v-92

 

If anyone wants to add to this, feel free.

 

Edited by DRIPTROIT 71

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Posted (edited)

I have tried to post several times but have had problems with it...not fun when you have put in a lot of time on the post. <_<
I try to post a new modified list but just get a page not found 404 when I try.

Edited by Force

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Posted (edited)

Okay one more try

Caterpillar 1160 (Can be modified to a 3208 with a V-style diesel pump)
AMT Ford LNT 8000

Caterpillar 3406A
Revell/Monogram Kenworth W900 Aerodyne Snap
Revell/Monogram Peterbilt 359 Snap

Caterpillar 3408
Revell AG Kenworth W900 V.I.T.
Revell AG Kenworth W900/T900 Australia
Revell AG Kenworth W900 Dump Truck
Revell AG Kenworth W900 Wrecker

Cummins V903
ERTL International Transtar F-4270

Cummins NHC 250
AMT White Freightliner Single Drive
AMT White Freightliner Dual  Drive
AMT Autocar 9964B Dump Truck
AMT Autocar A64B

Cummins NTA 370
AMT Kenworth K123/125
AMT Kenworth W923/925
AMT Kenworth W925 Challenge Transit Mixer
AMT Kenworth W925 Alaskan Hauler
AMT Kenworth T600A/Canepa

Cummins NTC 350
AMT White Road Boss (the box says NTD 350 but there is no such engine)
AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Series Cab T501 and all issues after that
AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Series Cab T533 and all issues after that
AMT Diamond REO
AMT White Western Star

Cummins NTC 400
Italeri Freightliner FLC
Italeri Freightliner FLC Dump Truck
Italeri Freighliner FLD (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14
Revell AG/Italeri Mack Superliner
Revell AG/Italeri Ford LTL 9000 (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14
Revell AG/Italeri Ford Aeromax (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14
Revell AG/Italeri Western Star

Cummins NTC 475 (twin turbos)
Revell AG Kenworth K100
Revell AG Kenworth K100 V.I.T. Austraila
Revell AG Kenworth K100 Aerodyne
Revell AG Kenworth K100 Heavy Hauler Tri Drive
Revell AG Kenworth T600A and T600 Big Sleeper
Revell AG Marmon Conventional (a modified Peterbilt 359 wich is not that correct)
Revell AG Peterbilt 359
Revell AG Peterbilt 353 and Alaskan Hauler Tri Drive
Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Bill Signs Trucking
Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Stepp's "Can Do" and the later "Will Do" Wrecker

Detroit Diesel 8V-71
AMT Peterbilt 352 Pacemaker T551 and all issues after that
AMT Peterbilt 359 California Hauler Unilite Cab "small window" T500-500, T500 and the most recent 866
AMT Peterbilt 359 Wrecker Unilite Cab "small window" T522
AMT GMC Astro 95
AMT Chevrolet Titan 90
AMT American LaFrance Fire Trucks
ERTL International CO-4070A
ERTL International Transtar II Eagle

Detroit Diesel 8V-92
AMT/ERTL GMC General
AMT/ERTL Chevrolet Bison

Detroit Diesel 8V-92T
AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne
AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne BJ & the Bear
AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Papa Truck
AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Hideout Truck

Detroit Diesel 12V-71T
AMT Kenworth W900 Super Boss Thermo King
AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Super Boss Bandag
AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Bandag Bandit

Detroit Diesel 16V-71
AMT/ERTL International Payhauler 350

Detroit Diesel Series 60
Italeri Peterbilt 378
Revell/Itelari 377AE

International V-800
AMT/ERTL International Paystar 5000
AMT/ERTL International Transtar 4300
ERTL International F-2674/2575

International Maxxforce 15
Moebius/Revell AG International Pro Star
Moebius/Revell AG International Lone Star

Mack ENDT-673
MPC/ERTL/AMT Mack DM600

Mack ENDT-675
AMT/ERTL Mack R.685ST / R-Model

MACK ENDT-676 Tip Turbine
AMT/ERTL Mack Cruiseliner COE

Mack ENDT-685
MPC/AMT/ERTL Mack DM800

Mack E9
Italeri Renault Magnum
Italeri Renault Turboleader

Turbine Experimental
AMT GMC Astro first issue T520 from 1971-72

Edited by Force

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Aftermarket Resin Engines

Kit Form Services KFS
"Yellow" Engine 1693 TA
"Yellow" Engine C13
Scania 400 6 cyl
Rolls Royce Eagle with Fuller Road Ranger

P&P Resinworks **Availablility??**
Cummins KTA 600
Detroit Diesel 12V-71

Auslowe
Cummins N14
Cummins V903
Cummins V903T
Detroit Diesel 6V-71T
Detroit Diesel 8V-92
Detroit Diesel 12V-71/12V-71T
Detroit Diesel Series 60
Mack E7
Mack E9
Mack Tip Turbine aftercooler set
"Yellow" engine 3406A

Melbourne Truck Accessories **Company Folded**
Detroit Diesel Series 60
Detroit Diesel 8V-92T Front Turbo
Detroit Diesel 8V-92T Rear Turbo
Detroit Diesel 8V-71
Detroit Diesel 12V-71
Detroit Diesel 12V-71T

Sourkrauts Model Trucks **Availability??**
Cummins KTA 600
Cummins L-10
Cummins M-11
Cummins V903
Detroit Diesel 4-71
Detroit Diesel 6-71
Detroit Diesel 6V-71T
Detroit Diesel 12V-71
Mack Thermodyne 6 cyl
Mack E6
Mack E7
Mack E9
"Yellow" Engine 3406A
"Yellow" Engine 3406B

Mo'luminum
Cummins L-10
Cummins BT 4
Cummins 5.9 12 valve
Detroit Diesel 12V-71
Detroit Diesel 6-71T
Mack E7 Etech
"Yellow" Engine C15

A&N Modeltrucks
"Red Engine" Cummins X15

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Oh, WoW ! 

This is an awesome list ! Thanks so much for compiling this. Could the engine colors be added? I know it would help me. 

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Yes  of course.

Allis Chalmers
Plum Crazy Purple
 
Caterpillar
1145 - Cat Yellow
1150 - Cat Yellow
1160 - Cat Yellow
1673 - Cat Yellow
1674 - Cat Yellow
1676 - Cat Yellow
1693 - Cat Yellow
3208 - Cat Yellow
3306 - Cat Yellow
3406 - New Cat Yellow
3408 - New Cat Yellow
3412 - New Cat Yellow
C5 - C19 - New Cat Yellow with Black valve covers
 
I have found out that Caterpillar changed the color from Old Caterpillar Yellow, also known as Hi-Way Yellow, to New Cat Yellow on their machines in June 1979 and that could be the case with the engines too.
So if that's correct the engines would be Cat Hi-Way Yellow from January 1932 until June 1979, after June 1979 New Cat Yellow...except for the cases when the truck manufacturers had their own colors as listed below.
The old Cat Hi-Way Yellow were a brighter shade yellow than the New Cat Yellow wich is more to the mustard shade.
 
 
Cummins
H/NH and HS/NHS/NHRS ("Iron Lung") series 672 and 743 cui 50's and early 60's - Cummins Gold close to old Cat yellow
NHC250 - Cummins Beige
NTA370 - Cummins Beige
NTC350 - Cummins Beige
NTC400 - Cummins Beige
NTC475 - Cummins Beige
N14 - Black (cast aluminum valve covers are red and stamped sheet metal valve covers are black)
V-903 - Dark grey or Black
Signature 600/ISX CM570 - Red (may have chrome or black valve covers)
X15-Red
 
 
Detroit Diesel
Series 60 - DD Alpine Green or BlueGreen
6-71 - DD Alpine Green
8V71 - DD Alpine Green
12V71 - DD Alpine Green or Silver (usually turbocharged models)
16V71 - DD Alpine Green
8V92 - DD Alpine Green or Silver (usually turbocharged models)
 
Chevrolet
1940s to late 1950s - Medium grey
Late 1950s to 1963 I-6 engines Chevrolet engine blue, V-8 Chevrolet engine red (orange)
 
 
Ford
Ford 331 Flathead truck engine - Dark Spruce Green
OHV 1954 to 1961 - Red
534SD - Ford Blue
 
 
GMC
GMC 1940s - Avacado
GMC late 1940s to early 1950s Dark Green
GMC 1950s Crimson Red
GMC 1960s V-6 Alpine Green, V-8 Red
Turbine - Red
 
 
International
V-800 - Metallic blue
Maxx Force - Dark Blue and Silver
 
 
Mack - Pre 1990 gold, Post 1990 grey, or blue / grey if equipped with an intercooler
ENDT675
ENDT676
ENDT865
4cyl (Mack AC) - medium grey
Super tip turbine - red
The Maxidyne engine colour was gold, the Maxiydyne truck could easily be identified by the gold dog on the hood.
The Thermodyne, Econodyne motors were all painted GREY, these had a chrome dog fitted.
If any other brand of motor was fitted, Cummins,Cat, GM-Detroit, then it would have a chrome dog fitted as well.
 
 
Exceptions, some truck manufacturer's use their own colors instead of the engine builders color
 
AutoCar - White through 1968-69 then manufacturer color
 
Ford - Black until 1965, Ford Blue until 1982, Ford Corporate Grey
 
Diamond Reo - Red

International - Red
"International paid Cummins, Detroit and Cat about $25 per engine to have them all painted IH 2150 Red for many years. The practice ended in the '70's, as I remember, and we (International, my employer) pocketed the 25 bucks. Concerning the blue International V-800 in the Paystar, marketing decided that International's new big bore engines should be blue to distinguish them from the competition"
 
Peterbilt - White through 1984 then engine manufacturer color (there are exceptions as white engines can be found in trucks after 1984 and manufactures colors in trucks before 1984)
Caterpillar was the last engine manufacturer to stop painting them white.
 
Kenworth - White through 1975 then engine manufacturer color (there are exceptions as white engines can be found in trucks after 1975 and manufacturers colors in trucks before 1975)

Edited by Force

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Posted (edited)

Hooray !! Pinned 

Brian, Gary W also has the Yellow 3406 C& E variants available  , I just picked up his E model for an upcoming build 

Thanks everyone for taking the time to complete all these lists 

Edited by gotnitro?

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47 minutes ago, gotnitro? said:

Hooray !! Pinned 

Brian, Gary W also has the Yellow 3406 C& E variants available  , I just picked up his E model for an upcoming build 

Thanks everyone for taking the time to complete all these lists 

An E? That is good to know! I was going by the last price sheet that he sent me. I'll be getting one of those!

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Man. Damm man. Man oh man. This is great. I know almost zip-zero-nada about big trucks, but thanks to youse guys, I can get at least a few things right. Great thread.  :D

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To quote Rusty from The Incredibles...

"That was totally wicked!!"

 

Thanks again for all the hard work that made this possible.

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Heres the 3406 E variant Gary sells 

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Its slated for the IH 9300 I'm planning to replicate my step dads truck , w scratchbuilt Mac dump trailer 

 

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I wound up taking this list a bit further (Being i didnt know this list existed) and went into detail of all the extra stuff we need to know like suspensions and cab difference's etc...

 

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:):):)

Been sick the past several days, so just now getting back to the forum...…    What a pleasant surprise!!!!!   A special T-H-A-N-K-S- to the different ones that helped make this become an easily found tool (like Brian, Jeff, Kerry, Mike, & the moderator that pinned it).   And it goes without saying, a VERY SPECIAL  T-H-A-N-K----Y-O-U needs to go out to Hakan (FORCE) for all the initial efforts (and follow up efforts) that even made this possible.  And, not to forget SAM for remembering to have the engine colors listed added too.   VERY VALUABLE TOOL!!!

DJ

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Posted (edited)

Well I had saved all this information in my files for my own use and I thought it would be useful for everybody...so that's my main reason for doing it.
But I can't take credit for everything because I haven't done all the legwork myself, I have found the information here and there on the web (including here on this forum) and I just put it together in a list so it would be easy to use.

Edited by Force

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Diamond Reo - Red

Haha this is funny, i painted the engine in my Diamond Reo red because i read somewhere that the rebuilt engines were painted red.
So i thought that and old truck like this must have had the engine rebuilt or replaced atleast once in its life.
That + i am a little tired of the beige i have been painting on many engines now.
I did not know about these lists until a few days ago.

But it seems like i have got it right completley by accident:lol:

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On 5/1/2019 at 9:13 AM, PierreR89 said:

Diamond Reo - Red

Haha this is funny, i painted the engine in my Diamond Reo red because i read somewhere that the rebuilt engines were painted red.
So i thought that and old truck like this must have had the engine rebuilt or replaced atleast once in its life.
That + i am a little tired of the beige i have been painting on many engines now.
I did not know about these lists until a few days ago.

But it seems like i have got it right completley by accident:lol:

Lol! Awesome!! 

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On 4/30/2019 at 1:17 PM, Force said:

Well I had saved all this information in my files for my own use and I thought it would be useful for everybody...so that's my main reason for doing it.
But I can't take credit for everything because I haven't done all the legwork myself, I have found the information here and there on the web (including here on this forum) and I just put it together in a list so it would be easy to use.

But you have done a lot of good work by compiling all of it and making one list! It’s a very helpful tool to have! I have both the engine list and color list in my phone and I use it quite often!! So thank you for sharing your list with all of us!! 

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