TECHMAN Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 For those of you who have "lost" the list of "which engines come in which kits" that FORCE had restructured into a "usable" format, it can be found on the 13th page of this category, have tried to just add a comment to it and bring it back into the active topics, but...…. DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spruslayer Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Caterpillar 1160 AMT Ford LNT-8000 Caterpillar 3406A Revell/Monogram Snap Kenworth W 900 Aerodyne Revell/Monogram Snap Peterbilt 359 Caterpillar 3408 Revell AG Kenworth W 900 VIT Revell AG Kenworth T 900 Australia Revell AG Kenworth W 900 Dump Truck Revell AG Kenworth W 900 Wrecker Cummins V903 Ertl International Transtar F-4270 Cummins NHC-250 AMT White Freightliner Dual Drive AMT White Freightliner Single Drive AMT/ERTL Autocar 9964B Dumptruck AMT Autocar A64B Cummins NTA-370 AMT Kenworth K 123/125 AMT Kenworth W 900 Alaskan Hauler AMT Kenworth W 925 Challenge Transit Mixer AMT Kenworth W 923/925 AMT Kenworth T 600A/Canepa Cummins NTC-350 AMT White Road Boss (Road Boss box says NTD-350 but I don't know of any such engine so it must be a NTC-350) AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Cab Wrecker (T533 and all issues after that) AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Cab (T501 and all issues after that) AMT Diamond Reo AMT White Western Star Cummins NTC-400 Italeri Freightliner FLC Revell AG Mack Superliner Revell AG Ford LTL 9000 (no aftercooler) Revell AG Ford Aeromax (no aftercooler) Italeri Freightliner FLC Dumptruck Italeri Western Star Italeri Mack Superliner Italeri Freightliner FLD (no aftercooler) Cummins NTC-475 (twin turbos) Revell AG Peterbilt 353 Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Bill Signs Trucking Conventional Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Wrecker Stepp's Can-Do and the new Revell US re-issue Revell AG Kenworth K 100 Heavy Hauler Tri-drive Revell AG Kenworth K 100 VIT Australia Revell AG Kenworth K 100 Aerodyne Revell AG Kenworth T 600A Detroit Diesel 8V-71 AMT Peterbilt 352 Pacemaker COE (T551 and all issues after that) AMT Peterbilt 359 California Hauler "Small Window" Unilite Cab (T500-500, T500 and the newly reissued AMT 866) AMT Peterbilt 359 "Small Window" Unilite Cab Wrecker (T522) AMT GMC Astro 95 AMT Chevrolet Titan 90 AMT American LaFrance Ertl International CO-4070A Ertl International Transtar II Eagle Detroit Diesel 8V-92T AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Papa Truck AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Hideout Truck Detroit Diesel 8V-92 AMT/Ertl GMC General AMT/Ertl Chevy Bison Detroit Diesel 12V-71T AMT Kenworth W900 Super Boss (Termo King) AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Super Boss (Bandag) AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Bandag Bandit Detroit Diesel 16V-71 AMT/Ertl International Payhauler 350 Detroit Diesel Series 60 Italeri Peterbilt 377AE Italeri Peterbilt 378 Revell AG Peterbilt 377AE International V-800 AMT/Ertl International Paystar 5000 AMT/Ertl International Transtar 4300 Ertl International F-2674/2575 International Maxxforce 15 Moebius International Lonestar Moebius International Pro Star II Mack ENDT-673 MPC/AMT/Ertl Mack DM600 Mack ENDT-865 MPC/AMT/Ertl Mack DM800 Mack ENDT-675 AMT/Ertl R-685ST/R Model Mack ENDT-676 Tip Turbine AMT/Matchbox Mack Cruiseliner COE Turbine Experimental AMT GMC Astro 95 (T510 from 1971-72) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKerry Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I have it along with the list of engine colors stored in my phone!! Comes in handy quite a bit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotnitro? Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Good to see this useful list back on top..might be more appropriate pinned.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKerry Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 20 hours ago, gotnitro? said: Good to see this useful list back on top..might be more appropriate pinned.. Agreed Jeff!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) That was my original thought when I put the lists together...I thought it was good useful information for all truck builders...but the moderators haven't noticed and pinned the topic as I thought they would. This topic consists of two different topics merged together and further in I listed these truck diesels again and I also did a list of resin truck diesels as well as a list of truck engine colors...as I said...useful information for a truck model builder. These lists are not exactly up to date right now as some have dissappeared and some have been added since they were put together, but as we can't edit old posts anymore I can't fix it. But here is the link to my original lists wich are in this topic: Edited April 27, 2019 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Thanks for pinning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) It was asked about aftermarket engines. This is a list of what I have put together. This is by no means a complete list, but it may be a help to those looking for an engine. Currently Available: Gary Wallace: Detroit 6-71 Detroit 6v-92T Detroit 8v-92T Detroit 12v-71T Cummins V903 Yellow 3406A Front or rear sump Yellow 3406B Front or rear sump Yellow 3406C Yellow 3406E A.I.T.M.: Cummins NTC Cummins V903 Detroit 12v-71T Detroit 16v-71T Mack ETAZ676 ETA673 Mack Maxitouqe Bottom Curbside Mack TRD 67-72 Bottom Curbside Auslowe: Yellow 3406 Cummins V903 Cummins V903T Cummins N14 Cummins Signature Detroit 8v-92 valve cover choices Detroit 12v-71 Turbo or non Detroit 6v-71 or 6v-92T valve cover choices Detroit 60 Series Mack E7 Mack E9 V8 Mack ENDT 675 Moluminum: Yellow C15 Mack E7 Detroit 12v-71 Turbo or non Detroit 6-71 Turbo or non valve cover choices Cummins L10 Cummins 4 BT Cummins 6 BT Kit Form Services: Yellow 1693TA Yellow C13 Dans Models (Ebay) Cummins NHRS If anyone wants to add to this list feel free. Edited April 27, 2019 by DRIPTROIT 71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) This is a list a a few formerly available engines that may be found second hand. This by far is not complete and mostly by memory. Clint Freeman Components: Detroit 6-71 Yellow 3406C Yellow 3406E P&P Cummins KTA 600 Detroit 12v71 Spaulding Trading and Shipping Detroit 6-71 Detroit 12v-71TT Sourkraut's: Detroit 6-71 Cummins KTA 600 Cummins M11 Back Yard Shed: Detroit 6v-92T Cummins V903 Mack Thermodyne Mack E6 Mack E9 Volvo 6 Melbourne Truck Accessories: Detroit 8v-71 Detroit 8v-92T Front mount turbo Detroit 8v-92T Rear mount turbo Detroit 12v-71 Detroit 12v-92 If anyone wants to add to this, feel free. Edited April 27, 2019 by DRIPTROIT 71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) I have tried to post several times but have had problems with it...not fun when you have put in a lot of time on the post. I try to post a new modified list but just get a page not found 404 when I try. Edited April 27, 2019 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Okay one more try Caterpillar 1160 (Can be modified to a 3208 with a V-style diesel injection pump) AMT Ford LNT 8000 Caterpillar 3406A Revell/Monogram Kenworth W900 Aerodyne Snap Revell/Monogram Peterbilt 359 Snap Caterpillar 3408 Revell AG Kenworth W900 V.I.T. Revell AG Kenworth W900/T900 Australia Revell AG Kenworth W900 Dump Truck Revell AG Kenworth W900 Wrecker Cummins V903 ERTL International Transtar F-4270 Cummins NHC 250 AMT White Freightliner Single Drive AMT White Freightliner Dual Drive AMT Autocar 9964B Dump Truck AMT Autocar A64B Cummins NTA 370 AMT Kenworth K123/125 AMT Kenworth W923/925 AMT Kenworth W925 Challenge Transit Mixer AMT Kenworth W925 Alaskan Hauler AMT Kenworth T600A/Canepa Cummins NTC 350 AMT White Road Boss (the box says NTD 350 but there is no such engine) AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Series Cab T501 and all issues after that AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Series Cab T533 and all issues after that AMT Diamond REO AMT White Western Star Cummins NTC 400 Italeri Freightliner FLC Italeri Freightliner FLC Dump Truck Italeri Freighliner FLD (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14 but it's not Revell AG/Italeri Mack Superliner Revell AG/Italeri Ford LTL 9000 (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14 but it's not Revell AG/Italeri Ford Aeromax (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14 but it's not Revell AG/Italeri Western Star Cummins NTC 475 (twin turbos) Revell AG Kenworth K100 Revell AG Kenworth K100 V.I.T. Australia Revell AG Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Revell AG Kenworth K100 Heavy Hauler Tri Drive Revell AG Kenworth T600 and T600 Big Sleeper Revell AG Marmon Conventional (a modified Peterbilt 359 wich is not that correct) Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Revell AG Peterbilt 353 and Alaskan Hauler Tri Drive Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Bill Signs Trucking Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Stepp's "Can Do" and the later "Will Do" Wrecker Detroit Diesel 8V-71 AMT Peterbilt 352 Pacemaker T551 and all issues after that AMT Peterbilt 359 California Hauler Unilite Cab "small window" T500-500, T500 and the most recent 866 AMT Peterbilt 359 Wrecker Unilite Cab "small window" T522 AMT GMC Astro 95 AMT Chevrolet Titan 90 AMT American LaFrance Fire Trucks ERTL International CO-4070A ERTL International Transtar II Eagle Detroit Diesel 8V-92 AMT/ERTL GMC General AMT/ERTL Chevrolet Bison Detroit Diesel 8V-92T AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne BJ & the Bear AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Papa Truck AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Hideout Truck Detroit Diesel 12V-71T AMT Kenworth W900 Super Boss "Thermo King" AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Super Boss "Bandag" AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Bandag Bandit Detroit Diesel 16V-71 AMT/ERTL International Payhauler 350 Detroit Diesel Series 60 Italeri Peterbilt 378 Revell/Itelari 377AE International V-800 AMT/ERTL International Paystar 5000 AMT/ERTL International Transtar 4300 ERTL International F-2674/2575 International Maxxforce 15 Moebius/Revell AG International Pro Star Moebius/Revell AG International Lone Star Mack ENDT-673 MPC/ERTL/AMT Mack DM600 Mack ENDT-675 AMT/ERTL Mack R.685ST / R-Model MACK ENDT-676 Tip Turbine AMT/ERTL Mack Cruiseliner COE Mack ENDT-685 MPC/AMT/ERTL Mack DM800 Mack E9 Italeri Renault Magnum Italeri Renault Turboleader Turbine Experimental AMT GMC Astro first issue T520 from 1971-72 AMT Parts Pack PP029 Recently Issued Edited June 12, 2022 by Force Added engines to the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Aftermarket Resin Engines Kit Form Services KFS "Yellow" Engine 1693 TA "Yellow" Engine C13 Scania 400 6 cyl Rolls Royce Eagle with Fuller Road Ranger P&P Resinworks **Availablility??** Cummins KTA 600 Detroit Diesel 12V-71 Auslowe Cummins N14 (with correct shaped heads and rocker covers) Cummins V903 Cummins V903T Cummins Signature ISX 15 Detroit Diesel 6V-71T Detroit Diesel 8V-92 Detroit Diesel 12V-71/12V-71T Detroit Diesel Series 60 Mack E7 Mack E9 Mack Tip Turbine aftercooler set "Yellow" engine 3406A Melbourne Truck Accessories **Company Folded** Detroit Diesel Series 60 Detroit Diesel 8V-92T Front Turbo Detroit Diesel 8V-92T Rear Turbo Detroit Diesel 8V-71 Detroit Diesel 12V-71 Detroit Diesel 12V-71T Sourkrauts Model Trucks **Availability??** Cummins KTA 600 Cummins L-10 Cummins M-11 Cummins V903 Detroit Diesel 4-71 Detroit Diesel 6-71 Detroit Diesel 6V-71T Detroit Diesel 12V-71 Mack Thermodyne 6 cyl Mack E6 Mack E7 Mack E9 "Yellow" Engine 3406A "Yellow" Engine 3406B Mo'luminum Cummins L-10 Cummins BT 4 Cummins 5.9 12 valve Detroit Diesel 12V-71 Detroit Diesel 6-71T Mack E7 Etech "Yellow" Engine C15 A&N Modeltrucks "Red Engine" Cummins X15 "Swedish Engine" (Volvo) D13 Gary Wallace (Clint Freeman) "Yellow" engine 3406E Modellers ResourceGardner 6LXB ST Supply Co "Yellow" engine 3406A Cummins X15 Detroit Diesel 6V-71 Mack 998 V8 Mack 865 V8 Mack MP8 I6 (Same as Volvo D13) Edited June 12, 2022 by Force Added engines to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Oh, WoW ! This is an awesome list ! Thanks so much for compiling this. Could the engine colors be added? I know it would help me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Yes of course. Allis Chalmers Plum Crazy Purple Caterpillar 1145 - Cat Yellow 1150 - Cat Yellow 1160 - Cat Yellow 1673 - Cat Yellow 1674 - Cat Yellow 1676 - Cat Yellow 1693 - Cat Yellow 3208 - Cat Yellow 3306 - Cat Yellow 3406 - New Cat Yellow 3408 - New Cat Yellow 3412 - New Cat Yellow C5 - C19 - New Cat Yellow with Black valve covers I have found out that Caterpillar changed the color from Old Caterpillar Yellow, also known as Hi-Way Yellow, to New Cat Yellow on their machines in June 1979 and that could be the case with the engines too. So if that's correct the engines would be Cat Hi-Way Yellow from January 1932 until June 1979, after June 1979 New Cat Yellow...except for the cases when the truck manufacturers had their own colors as listed below. The old Cat Hi-Way Yellow were a brighter shade yellow than the New Cat Yellow wich is more to the mustard shade. Cummins H/NH and HS/NHS/NHRS ("Iron Lung") series 672 and 743 cui 50's and early 60's - Cummins Gold close to old Cat yellow NHC250 - Cummins Beige NTA370 - Cummins Beige NTC350 - Cummins Beige NTC400 - Cummins Beige NTC475 - Cummins Beige N14 - Black (cast aluminum valve covers are red and stamped sheet metal valve covers are black) V-903 - Dark grey or Black Signature 600/ISX CM570 - Red (may have chrome or black valve covers) X15-Red Detroit Diesel Series 60 - DD Alpine Green or BlueGreen 6-71 - DD Alpine Green 8V71 - DD Alpine Green 12V71 - DD Alpine Green or Silver (usually turbocharged models) 16V71 - DD Alpine Green 8V92 - DD Alpine Green or Silver (usually turbocharged models) Chevrolet 1940s to late 1950s - Medium grey Late 1950s to 1963 I-6 engines Chevrolet engine blue, V-8 Chevrolet engine red (orange) Ford Ford 331 Flathead truck engine - Dark Spruce Green OHV 1954 to 1961 - Red 534SD - Ford Blue GMC GMC 1940s - Avacado GMC late 1940s to early 1950s Dark Green GMC 1950s Crimson Red GMC 1960s V-6 Alpine Green, V-8 Red Turbine - Red International V-800 - Metallic blue Maxx Force - Dark Blue and Silver Mack - Pre 1990 gold, Post 1990 grey, or blue / grey if equipped with an intercooler ENDT675 ENDT676 ENDT865 4cyl (Mack AC) - medium grey Super tip turbine - red The Maxidyne engine colour was gold, the Maxiydyne truck could easily be identified by the gold dog on the hood. The Thermodyne, Econodyne motors were all painted GREY, these had a chrome dog fitted. If any other brand of motor was fitted, Cummins,Cat, GM-Detroit, then it would have a chrome dog fitted as well. Exceptions, some truck manufacturer's use their own colors instead of the engine builders color AutoCar - White through 1968-69 then manufacturer color Ford - Black until 1965, Ford Blue until 1982, Ford Corporate Grey Diamond Reo - Red International - Red "International paid Cummins, Detroit and Cat about $25 per engine to have them all painted IH 2150 Red for many years. The practice ended in the '70's, as I remember, and we (International, my employer) pocketed the 25 bucks. Concerning the blue International V-800 in the Paystar, marketing decided that International's new big bore engines should be blue to distinguish them from the competition" Peterbilt - White through 1984 then engine manufacturer color (there are exceptions as white engines can be found in trucks after 1984 and manufactures colors in trucks before 1984) Caterpillar was the last engine manufacturer to stop painting them white. Kenworth - White through 1975 then engine manufacturer color (there are exceptions as white engines can be found in trucks after 1975 and manufacturers colors in trucks before 1975) Edited April 27, 2019 by Force 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotnitro? Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) Hooray !! Pinned Brian, Gary W also has the Yellow 3406 C& E variants available , I just picked up his E model for an upcoming build Thanks everyone for taking the time to complete all these lists Edited April 27, 2019 by gotnitro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, gotnitro? said: Hooray !! Pinned Brian, Gary W also has the Yellow 3406 C& E variants available , I just picked up his E model for an upcoming build Thanks everyone for taking the time to complete all these lists An E? That is good to know! I was going by the last price sheet that he sent me. I'll be getting one of those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Man. Damm man. Man oh man. This is great. I know almost zip-zero-nada about big trucks, but thanks to youse guys, I can get at least a few things right. Great thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 To quote Rusty from The Incredibles... "That was totally wicked!!" Thanks again for all the hard work that made this possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotnitro? Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Heres the 3406 E variant Gary sells Its slated for the IH 9300 I'm planning to replicate my step dads truck , w scratchbuilt Mac dump trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit1 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I wound up taking this list a bit further (Being i didnt know this list existed) and went into detail of all the extra stuff we need to know like suspensions and cab difference's etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TECHMAN Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 Been sick the past several days, so just now getting back to the forum...… What a pleasant surprise!!!!! A special T-H-A-N-K-S- to the different ones that helped make this become an easily found tool (like Brian, Jeff, Kerry, Mike, & the moderator that pinned it). And it goes without saying, a VERY SPECIAL T-H-A-N-K----Y-O-U needs to go out to Hakan (FORCE) for all the initial efforts (and follow up efforts) that even made this possible. And, not to forget SAM for remembering to have the engine colors listed added too. VERY VALUABLE TOOL!!! DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) Well I had saved all this information in my files for my own use and I thought it would be useful for everybody...so that's my main reason for doing it. But I can't take credit for everything because I haven't done all the legwork myself, I have found the information here and there on the web (including here on this forum) and I just put it together in a list so it would be easy to use. Edited April 30, 2019 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierreR89 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Diamond Reo - Red Haha this is funny, i painted the engine in my Diamond Reo red because i read somewhere that the rebuilt engines were painted red. So i thought that and old truck like this must have had the engine rebuilt or replaced atleast once in its life. That + i am a little tired of the beige i have been painting on many engines now. I did not know about these lists until a few days ago. But it seems like i have got it right completley by accident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKerry Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 On 5/1/2019 at 9:13 AM, PierreR89 said: Diamond Reo - Red Haha this is funny, i painted the engine in my Diamond Reo red because i read somewhere that the rebuilt engines were painted red. So i thought that and old truck like this must have had the engine rebuilt or replaced atleast once in its life. That + i am a little tired of the beige i have been painting on many engines now. I did not know about these lists until a few days ago. But it seems like i have got it right completley by accident Lol! Awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKerry Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 1:17 PM, Force said: Well I had saved all this information in my files for my own use and I thought it would be useful for everybody...so that's my main reason for doing it. But I can't take credit for everything because I haven't done all the legwork myself, I have found the information here and there on the web (including here on this forum) and I just put it together in a list so it would be easy to use. But you have done a lot of good work by compiling all of it and making one list! It’s a very helpful tool to have! I have both the engine list and color list in my phone and I use it quite often!! So thank you for sharing your list with all of us!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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